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Don't know who needs to hear this. I started a food diary after an elimination diet which restored my energy levels.

I don't know the reasons, but you're looking in a time window of four-seven days.

When I stray from my diet (meat and water) one day. I become mentally unstable after 4 days. It says for 3 day, then gets good again.

Crying for no reason, ruminating, poor sleep, strong sour smell that can't seem to be removed by washing but can be suppressed by a strong anti transpirant.

Going for sibo testing soon, if it's not hereditary, enzymes might be a solution. If it is, Pankreas is up for investigation next.

Been looking for solutions since 2018, no doctor could offer an explanation so far.



Definitely have experience with the same thing with food. I did end up finding out it was my Pancreas and take enzymes with every meal. Really really helps and has given me way more energy and my guts feel 90% better. Still have to watch certain foods and drink plenty of water but it is way better. Good luck.


Curious to try this but I’m unfamiliar. What kind of enzymes did you find helpful? (What’s the name of the product if you don’t mind sharing?) Are they over the counter or prescription?


Hi sorry for the late reply. I have been using Pancreatin 2000 from Now. They are over the counter. They are about 20$ per 250 capsule bottle. All the stuff I read said that porcine pancreatine over the counter is effective and it has been my experience. My doctor and I discussed it and she said that I should continue using the brand since I have responded well to it. I have tried Veggie pancreatine and it does not help. Its almost like taking nothing at all.


Oof it's some basic reasoning. I've seen an add for a d a test that can determine missing enzymes.

This triggered brain to make the connection between sibo and enzymes.

Basically: if crbs trigger depression AND it takes 4 days to do so, it has to do something with fermentation. Bacteria and yeast do fermentation and they can only settle in the long intestine if there is enough to eat. ergo: I might not be making enough enzymes to get rid of glucose and fructose and after 4 days the ferments get through the gut lining into the bloodstream or whatever and I'm basically hangover for the next few days.

This led me into looking into enzymes to break down sugars, (veggies are secondary concern right now)

At least what I found after 30 mind of googling was that you shouldn't just take them cuz it could be hereditary - that's when I stopped reading and decided to get tested for sibo first.


Great deduction. My experience aligns with what you said and taking enzymes has tremendously helped my mood and energy levels.(and flatulence, alot I mean hugely changed it after starting enzymes.) I have had these problems since I was kid, probably started as early as 6 or 7. It really took a nose dive around 31 and got worse until I started the enzymes and now it has steadily gotten better as long as I take the enzymes.


Did u ever get around to find out why the enzymes aren't made by your body?


No I have not. Most likely its part hereditary(dads and his entire side of the family is diabetic) and part environment. I was heavy drinker in late teens and early twenties and I had a chronic infection that most likely triggers autoimmune responses in the rest of my body including my pancreas. Once I got the infection cured, by removing the infected tissue alot of symptoms have abated and my body has slowly started to recover and I can eat alot more variety of different foods. So who knows but like I said I think its both.


Interesting. A real life example of latency and half-life[1].

[1] https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2023/04/25/n1-latency-and-half...


thanks! I needed this, I guess!


thank you for this! I have something very similar


Have you noticed something else? I seem to tolerate sour apples and 1 teaspoon of sauerkraut per day, but not much more.

Also garlic seems to be okay, but not onions, chilly powder is okay but not chilli-peppers or pepper, or tomato or seeds in general.

Allergy tests all came back negative


I'm leaning towards maybe some gut bacteria causing this illness maybe. My allergy tests were negative too.


Have you done blood PH level test?




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