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Then why have so many of the bad things (poverty/disease/famine) being going down steadily over the last 100 years?



Conversely, one could bring up the literal war in a particular European country, downfall of women's rights and rising LGBT+ intolerance in a certain developed country, rising income inequality and climate change.


We are living in the most peaceful time in history and one war doesn't change that. You are a victim of media. Try reading Factfulness by Hans Rosling and getting off the internet, it will do you some good.


> one war doesn't change that

It is a matter of perception. I can tell myself feel-good statistics while ignoring the reality for millions of people as well.

You also conveniently glossed over the other points I brought up


Sure, you can cherry pick bad events that happen throughout history. But the truth is that:

- the war in Ukraine is significantly less deadly / destructive / etc than basically every other major war in the last 100 years.

- not even sure where to start with this one? Downfall of women's rights... where?

- LGBT+ are more accepted globally (and in the US) than they've ever been.

- Income inequality is a silly metric to care about when actual poverty is going down.

- More people and companies care about climate change than at any other point in history.

Are you seeing the trend? Just because some things might be "bad" by your standards doesn't mean they're not the best they've ever been, and doesn't mean they're not getting better.


> The war in Ukraine is significantly less deadly / destructive / etc than basically every other major war in the last 100 years.

It's one of the most destructive wars, in the style of WW I warfare. Because Russia are basically barbarians in their way of of waging war.


Are you under the impression that Russia (USSR) has not been involved in the various other wars since WWII?


To be fair not really… other states have been involved in bigger and overall more terrible wars since then. Not USSR/Russia

Chechnya was much shorter and on a smaller scale. Russia has already lost several times more several times more troops in Ukraine than they had during the entire war in Afghanistan (9 years) of course the civilian and Afghan casualties were mich bigger.

Their involvement in other conflicts was indirect, relatively limited or quite short term (Hungary etc.)


Yes, I wasn't really worrying about the indirect/direct distinction, given that the comments I was replying to were trying to make a point about overall global suffering and evil "winning". It doesn't really matter if Russia is invading Ukraine directly or arming insurgents in [insert proxy war here] – the result is still having a hand in creating suffering, and Ukraine is no worse (better in fact by most metrics) than what they've been doing since WWII.

Mind you I don't think the US/UK/whomever has been doing that much better, but Russia is being picked on because that is who menus singled out.


There is no "better in fact". It's literally the worst since WWII.


Not to such huge scale. Nothing compares since WWII.


One could. There are ups and downs but the overall trend continues to be up.

All of those things you’ve mentioned have not gotten worse and generally keep improving (except income inequality and climate change of course..)


That I agree to.




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