If I enjoy wine, why should I substitute it for something else? I don't get what is so inherently evil about alcohol that I need to find an alternative immediately or why it would be beneficial for me to find an alternative.
This was partially in response to this:
"And the buddhist in my fully appreciates a moderation / middle way approach...But what is that glass of wine getting you? Is it strictly a taste thing? Is it the antioxidants? My guess is there are comparable things that would be you those same positive results of a glass of wine."
Ok..from my anecdotal evidence as much i like red wine, i don't like what seems to do to my liver. (am not referring to study but the feeling of nausea/acidity it causes). I have found that grape juice is a good source of antioxidants..
"I meant the positive aspects of wine ... Not any of the buzz/drunk happiness benefits"
If I may be so blunt, you honestly are now sounding like some Mormon friends I know who have never drank, but for some reason feel particularly qualified to speak on the matter.
Not any of the buzz/drunk happiness benefits. What I'm suggesting people try and do is find that place without drinking.