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TV detector vans are a myth


They certainly built some, but it does seem more like a publicity stunt or occasionally touring enforcement option, than any kind of seriously pursued plan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_detector_van


It's funny because we have labelled "TV Inspektion" vans all over the place -- but those are for robotic camera examination of a stuck sewer line!

(After many years of public broadcasting being charged if you have a TV -- or even a PC or mobile phone with TV capability -- the charges now go through the normal tax system, so you no longer have to worry about the real TV inspection people asking to come in to see if you have a TV!).


Actually in the 80s this was not technically impossible.

Superheterodyne receivers including the ones in TVs have a local oscillator that's mixed with the received signal. This oscillator leaks out a bit and can be detected at short ranges.

These days there's much more interference and TV is not distributed over the air anymore usually. So it is no longer a thing.

The thing is though, it's usually not needed. All they have to do is go to the houses without a license and either look through the window or listen for the sounds of a TV show.

I wish they'd just abandon the concept of a TV License though. Everyone has a media capable device these days and the administrative load of all this license crap is not worth the savings for the 5 people that really don't have a TV. In other words, just take it out of the taxes.

In the Netherlands they have done this for decades but when I lived in Ireland there was still a really expensive license. For which you get 2 really mediocre channels (IMHO)

The funny thing was the ads on TV. They focused not so much on the huge fine of more than a thousand euros but on the shame of being seen in court without a license. As if anyone gives a F... Lol. Piracy was really rampant when I was there and people even networked their wifis together over long distances to share movies.


Completely possible technologically, though.


Questionable in a street full of RF noise.

You could just about make a speculative case for IF and flyback transmission in the old analogue days, although triangulation would have been a serious problem.

Today's digital systems are much quieter.

But the best argument is that even if they worked it wouldn't make a difference. A large team of inspectors has a list of properties without a license and they're checked in person. A complex detector van does nothing to make this easier - as proven by the complete lack of detector evidence in court cases.


From what I've read, they do exist, but have never been successful in catching anyone.


I found this article from 2021 [1]

“ Modern efforts to detect licence evasion are shrouded in mystery. Modern flatscreen displays receiving digital television signals do not emit as much radio frequency interference as older designs, and any such signals detected are less easily correlated with broadcast television. An LCD television in the home can just as easily be displaying output from a video game console or an online streaming service, with both being usage cases that do not require the owner to pay a licence fee. Based on an alleged BBC submission for a search warrant in recent years, there may be optical methods used in which reflected light from a television in a viewer’s home is compared to a live broadcast signal. The BBC declined to answer the Freedom of Information request with any details of their methods, other than to say they have employed vehicles and handheld devices in enforcement efforts.”

https://hackaday.com/2021/01/18/tv-detector-vans-once-prowle...


There's no mystery. They have a list of every address without a TV license so simply go and ring the doorbell and ask you. You don't have to let them in.


An ex-gf of mine was caught red-handed with the TV on and brazenly (and impressively) bluffed her way out of a conviction. She said it wasn't her flat and the real owner was out.

The inspectors can't do much if you refuse to identify or incriminate yourself.


They did exist - I've seen a scrapped one, and I know someone who has the technical manuals for the equipment inside.

They almost certainly did not work as intended, particularly if you had more than one TV in a 100-metre radius of the van.




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