Thanks for the link. It's a pretty hard read, I wish the author would have done some editing. It's unstructured speech interspersed with cursing. I only skimmed it, but might come back to it in the future. If Lazar is lying though, he's a world-class liar (and he's a world class failure at making money off it).
#1315 with Bob Lazar (scientist that worked reverse-engineering UFO propulsion tech for US military in 1980s): https://open.spotify.com/episode/7Gg4Qi578G5SXoEtaLVVpx
and #1883 Ryan Graves (was the first active duty pilot to publicly disclose regular sightings of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon): https://open.spotify.com/episode/68t6BZRHenCslyLLaviW1H