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The incentive should be: the people want it, the corporations should figure out how to deal or fail, and the government should be held accountable until the people get the healthcare they want.

As with any “slow turning ship” sometimes it takes a bit of a push.

Seeing other nations do it better is not enough push.

When people start to protest over this, momentum will build.

The problem is: sick people make terrible protestors.



I would argue that most people don't want to optimize benefit for dollar spent. This is why you get rhetoric about death panels and garbage like that.

Almost nobody's going to turn down ludicrously expensive cancer treatment because the money could be better spent on preventative medicine

Sick people make terrible protesters. They also make terrible decisions about how Healthcare should be rationed.

Prices will continue to rise until somebody in the system decides they are unwilling to pay more. Right now there's no one in the US taking on that role.


I posit that part of the reason we (in the US) are in this current climate is because of active actual choice by the capital owning class toward profit over people, because sick and in-debt people will work for a little as possible.

I think prices will rise until corporations find it’s too expensive to find new labor when a lot of it can no longer work. Like a paperclip bending over and over.


WE may be saying the same thing.

Humans will pick profit over people every time. The problem is that we have made it so the most profitable option is not the best at helping people.

I propose we change the laws and spending so the most profitable business is one that helps people the most.

You propose what exactly?


It’s nothing exact, as it’s anecdotal and incipient thought, at best. We may be indeed saying similar things.

I think, though, that a nation state’s job, if it wants to exist at the gunpoint they all exist at, it should enforce a rule that corporations within critical for life industries (healthcare, housing, power, food, education, utility, etc), are not to provide profit, shareholder return (dividend/buyback), or other similar during times when they raise consumer prices greater than inflation or layoff any employees for financial reasons or have over a certain amount of employees on public funded support programs. (Welfare, etc.)

The corporation and its profit to the owners should come second to the consumer and the corporations labor force.




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