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Surveillance Capitalism is not only about the 4th Amendment, (even if i did focus that aspect in my comment) shifting power centers may make corporations a bigger threat for civil rights than government agencies, as behavioral futures markets and mass manipulation undermine the very ideals of a liberal democratic republic and the core concept of how our society is governed. I can't compress Zuboffs book into a few sentences. Glad you know about it.

I like to joke that in the EU personal data belongs to the person it is about, in china all data belongs to the government, and in the USA data belongs to the corporations that gather it. If i could choose the global system for human society, i would not choose surveillance communism, but i would also not choose surveillance capitalism. I want no state of mass surveillance, no matter if it is operated by the government or by corporations, it is a terrible idea either way.

We disagree on whether surveillance by american corporations is "a different league" or "just as bad" as surveillance by chinese corporations. Let's first agree the societal systems are obviously different and that free speech and the ability to reform are parts where these systems differ. But I do not consider surveillance capitalism less worse due to the ability of democracy to reform democratically, because surveillance capitalism undermines that very ability. I do however agree that it is good we can have this discourse without worrying about our social score. Please like and subscribe ;-)



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