I agree. It is absolutely in the interest of the American government to have Ukrainians and Russians die, preferably through the use of American weapons. The fact that America and NATO have been supporting the war rather than pursuing peace seals the argument.
Any news story that keeps the good versus evil narrative going is desirable.
> It is absolutely in the interest of the American government to have Ukrainians and Russians die
It is in the US's interest for Russia to deplete their military capability, and for Ukraine to not become part of Russia.
> The fact that America and NATO have been supporting the war rather than pursuing peace seals the argument.
How does NATO "pursue peace" in a conflict they aren't a party to? What exactly do you think they should do? One side of this war has the unilateral power to end it, and it ain't NATO, the US, or Ukraine.
If the US stops sending endless weapons and money to Ukraine, the war ends. If Ukraine agrees to concede the predominately ethnic Russian areas that Russia has occupied, the war ends. If Russia surrenders said territories to Ukraine, the war ends.
But nobody wants to concede anything. So the war will continue, undoubtedly with plentiful more opportunities to find ourselves in WW3.
> But nobody wants to concede anything. So the war will continue, undoubtedly with plentiful more opportunities to find ourselves in WW3.
Giving in to the nuclear and other blackmail that Russia uses will never get lasting peace.
All it will do is get Russia to invade again in the future. You only need to see, Moldova, Georgia, Crimea, and Donbas to see this.
The only real peace for this war is a peace where Russia retreats entirely from Ukraine, militarily defeated and it becomes clear to Russia that any future invasion will be met with an even stronger force.
Otherwise the little green men will keep appearing and the Russians will keep invading countries.
Nobody has any reason to. Ukraine has made their biggest gains since the beginning of the war. Russia controls vast regions of land under no real threat, while Ukraine is facing a crippling energy crisis going into winter. And the US is weakening a geopolitical adversary and has been granted a defacto right to give the military industrial complex a blank check - something the political establishment has been longing for, for decades.
So I don't think anybody is anywhere near ready to concede. It's certainly going much worse for Russia than they expected, but being where we're at today is also far from what the US had in mind 9 months ago when this all started. It seems the most likely outcome for this war is a long, bloody, and expensive affair. The real issue is the specter of WW3 in the backdrop. There's an argument to be made that Zelensky sees that as a win condition (as per the topic of this thread), but fortunately it seems that neither the US nor Russia do. And they are the ones that get to decide if/when that happens.
Any news story that keeps the good versus evil narrative going is desirable.