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Commit queues are so far superior to shaming broken builds that I think it's only nostalgia that makes you miss it.


Absolutely. In my experience, it’s only “not toxic” to a few people, and for most others it is toxic, but the people who like it won’t ever be able to see that.


exactly. even if the current team is cool with it, team+1 may not be, and now they're in a position that feels shitty to them. it's good 'ole boys club shit.

people brag about their dunce caps, "john's fault" commit messages from managers, and other forms of public shame as a badge of honor when it would be so much more interesting to here about how they fixed their broken processes that led to the problems in the first place.

"oops, a developer fucked up the prod db" says more about the org and its processes than it does about the developer.


For the record: I am not recommending people to adapt a toxic culture.

What I would like people to take away from these discussions is the curiosity to question established practices and processes and re-evaluate the cost-benefit ratio of process steps just like the manufacturing people I write software for continue to optimize their working mode again and again


I think CI (even better, commit queue) is pretty much table stakes for a 3+ person project at this point.




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