edit: everything I said below is moot, as BMW's iX offers 600 mile range! I presume parent commenter will be promptly purchasing one, as the only thing stopping them from going EV was the inability to buy a 600 mile range EV /s
I think the reason people "get triggered" is because you're throwing around a lot of claims about EVs that at best are not any different from mileage/range numbers in ICE vehicles and at worst are not true...not just because you want over 400 miles of range. I mean, dude: Tesla drivers aren't speed demons but they're no hypermiling prius drivers. Every time I see one, it's being driven unremarkably - ie just like everyone else.
Also, there's such a thing as buying based off the vehicle you need +99% of the time, and renting for the 1%. I know someone who owns an SUV that doesn't get great gas mileage, and they rent a more fuel-efficient sedan for when they have to drive on a long business trip, saving miles on their own car and also making the writeoff really easy.
>My goal would be only making one charging stop a day on a road trip for going at least 600 miles.
Averaging 70mph (which is generous given traffic and probably having some travel on slower secondary roads) that's 8.5 hours. That's a lot of driving for just one stop. My car warns me around 2 hours in that I should take a break, for example. Around the three hour mark, I'm usually ready for a leg-stretch, bathroom break, and giving my brain a bit of a rest.
Given humans generally like 2-3 meals a day, maybe, just maybe, "I wanna drive for 8-9 hours with one stop and until I can do that in an EV, I'm not buying one" is just a tad on the side of excuse-making?
An Ioniq 5 (and most other 800v architecture cars) will recharge 80% of its range in under 20 minutes on a 250kw charger (which are spreading pretty rapidly, even in the US)...that's not a lot more than what "everyone hit the bathroom, grab some food/drink, stretch your legs, and meet back at the car" takes.
Given most EVs these days come with lots of trip planning and there are numerous websites to help with it as well - allowing you to specify you want to stop at chargers near certain amenities, for example - I really don't get the concern.
People seriously need to get over this range anxiety stuff.
This analysis is highly dependent on where you live and where you drive. I live in the Southeastern US, and there are routes between my large city and popular vacation areas where fast chargers are not present yet. So it's less a matter of not wanting to stop as much as it is there's few/no chargers between here and there. I would imagine other parts of the world are in a similar part of the deployment curve. Even Tesla only relatively recently opened a supercharger on the interstate in that region; we are still early in the cycle.
(Also, it is not smart to put family in a vehicle and drive with only a single charging option for hundreds of miles around the area where you will exhaust your battery. What do you do if that charger is closed/out of service?)
I hear your push-back, but there are valid reasons to be concerned about using a technology that is still in the "deploying" phase. Everyone will adopt when it is comfortable to them.
> Also, there's such a thing as buying based off the vehicle you need +99% of the time, and renting for the 1%.
Yeah that's a complete non-starter for the average person.
People just don't care about EV any more they care about diesel vs mid-grade vs premium. What they do care about is not having to have a second car for the couple-times-a-year use cases, especially since the first car tends to be one of the biggest purchases they've ever made.
>" is just a tad on the side of excuse-making?
If the product is inconvenient, the only customers you'll get are fanboys. You're just not gonna get adoption without feature parity.
I think the reason people "get triggered" is because you're throwing around a lot of claims about EVs that at best are not any different from mileage/range numbers in ICE vehicles and at worst are not true...not just because you want over 400 miles of range. I mean, dude: Tesla drivers aren't speed demons but they're no hypermiling prius drivers. Every time I see one, it's being driven unremarkably - ie just like everyone else.
Also, there's such a thing as buying based off the vehicle you need +99% of the time, and renting for the 1%. I know someone who owns an SUV that doesn't get great gas mileage, and they rent a more fuel-efficient sedan for when they have to drive on a long business trip, saving miles on their own car and also making the writeoff really easy.
>My goal would be only making one charging stop a day on a road trip for going at least 600 miles.
Averaging 70mph (which is generous given traffic and probably having some travel on slower secondary roads) that's 8.5 hours. That's a lot of driving for just one stop. My car warns me around 2 hours in that I should take a break, for example. Around the three hour mark, I'm usually ready for a leg-stretch, bathroom break, and giving my brain a bit of a rest.
Given humans generally like 2-3 meals a day, maybe, just maybe, "I wanna drive for 8-9 hours with one stop and until I can do that in an EV, I'm not buying one" is just a tad on the side of excuse-making?
An Ioniq 5 (and most other 800v architecture cars) will recharge 80% of its range in under 20 minutes on a 250kw charger (which are spreading pretty rapidly, even in the US)...that's not a lot more than what "everyone hit the bathroom, grab some food/drink, stretch your legs, and meet back at the car" takes.
Given most EVs these days come with lots of trip planning and there are numerous websites to help with it as well - allowing you to specify you want to stop at chargers near certain amenities, for example - I really don't get the concern.
People seriously need to get over this range anxiety stuff.