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> You imply that population will increase indefinitely

You imply that it won't.

I don't see a fundamental reason why humans would stop at 8 billion - yeah, currently, (my hypothesis is that) the world is kind of shit, so people stopped procreating due to stress. However, there's no reason to think that people won't procreate once the world becomes a better place to live.

> or that degrowth needs to happen forever

Assuming population keeps growing (which I see no fundamental reason to doubt will happen eventually), degrowth needs to happen forever in order to keep the consumption from growing - basic math:

    total consumption = number of people * avg. consumption per person
To keep total consumption constant, avg. consumption per person needs to decrease proportionally to the increase of the number of people.

> Also, slippery slope argument.

Not a real counter-argument.



> You imply that it won't.

How? Though, I am certain that it won't grow indefinitely on earth.

> I don't see a fundamental reason why humans would stop at 8 billion

It can stop at 9 billion and still not grow indefinitely. Currently a peak of 11 billion and no more than 12 billion is estimated. As said. Because of increased living standards.

> To keep total consumption constant, avg. consumption per person needs to decrease proportionally to the increase of the number of people.

It better to decrease proportionally with a coefficient smaller than 1 and bigger than 0 than decrease consumption not at all.

> Not a real counter-argument.

Yes, it is, because it implies a logical fallacy.


>> You imply that population will increase indefinitely

> You imply that it won't.

> I don't see a fundamental reason why humans would stop at 8 billion

This is not a guess based on how we subjectively feel about the world, but the current UN estimate, based on a lot of data.

"By 2100, the global fertility rate is expected to dip to 1.9 births per woman", so below the replacement rate, which is slightly above 2.0.

https://www.livescience.com/65732-world-population-will-stop...

https://www.un.org/development/desa/en/news/population/world...

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/17/worlds-popu...




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