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You missed his recent pro-Russian plan for Ukraine and subsequent blackmailing over Starlink.


I don't like Musk, but he's done more for Ukraine than you can dream of. But he also sent a few stupid tweets that he took back, so that's a good enough excuse for virtue signalers to feel superior.


Poland bought for Ukraine more than half of the starlink terminals.

https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/ukraine-uses-over-11000...


From your source:

> SpaceX has said it pays for about 70 percent of the services used by Ukraine, offering all the terminals in that country the best possible option, valued at USD 4,500 per month even though most have contracts signed only for the USD 500-per-month service option.


Ukrainians literally pay for the internet access.. what did he do?


According to Musk, Starlink has spent $80-120 million to subsidize Ukraine. He could be making this up, but this is supported by a letter SpaceX sent to the Pentagon even before Musk's infamous Ukraine tweets.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/13/politics/elon-musk-spacex-sta...


I don’t think his proposal was pro-Russia as much as it was anti-more-dead-people.

There’s no way Russia loses this war if it doesn’t escalate beyond local conflict. The objective now is (or should be) minimizing casualties and human suffering, not lines on maps from 2015.

Stopping recurring monthly donations of something very expensive is also not “blackmail”.


> I don’t think his proposal was pro-Russia as much as it was anti-more-dead-people.

I believe this topic has been discussed more than enough since February, by people with way more expertise than Musk. Ukraine has made it very clear that they do not intent to let their country be oppressed by the foreign aggressor. It is their decision to make.

Asking Ukraine to bow to Russia now that they are successful in their defense is a pro Russia stance. Claiming otherwise is just dishonest.

Especially since he was attempting to imply that anything close to a proper voting process would even be possible in that region now.

His statement means he is either incredibly stupid, or malicious. Both possibilities are dangerous. And Musk fans will vehemently disagree with the former.


If you're a spectacularly famous, influential and anti-more-dead-people the message you should be blasting out to your hundred-million followers is: Russia out. That's it.


> I don’t think his proposal was pro-Russia as much as it was anti-more-dead-people.

It was anti Ukrainian lives on occupied territories and pro Russian soldiers lives. It was also pro next invasion once Russia recovers at which point Russia will argue that Ukraine is failed stated due to having destroyed infrastructure.

>The objective now is (or should be) minimizing casualties and human suffering,

The causalities are not minimized by rewarding Russia for invasion and letting it continue with genocide.

> not lines on maps from 2015

The issue is not so much lines on the map as actual consequences of those maps. The torture, genocide, suppression of Ukrainian identity and so on. And obviously favorable position for next invasion again and again, until whole of Ukraine is taken.


I hate almost everything Musk does, but I am aligned on his Russia plan. Biden must negotiate with Putin to end the war. Europe is buying more than enough oil from Russia to sustain the war for a decade.




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