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> The only reason that seems far right to you is that the Overton window has radically shifted.

You mean rightwards, right? Otherwise we don’t live in the same reality. Even Labour is tame compared to what it was 30 years ago.

> Not being beholden to the EU and controlling your borders was perfectly normal 30 years ago.

The problem with Brexit is not the control of the borders, it’s the whole nationalist bullshit that goes with it (and the fact that it’s completely unrealistic). 40 years ago Thatcher was commuting the country to thriving in the single market. And she was as right wing as it comes, and the political mainstream of the day. 30 years ago it was Major.

> Hell, the whole “not letting anyone in just because they claim to be a refugee” aspect was normal in Europe…10 years ago?

No, not really. If you are British, your perspective might be a bit skewed, but there were discussions about refugees waves regularly after the Viêt Nam war or the Armenian genocide, for example, certainly no consensus to deport them to a third world country. The only example of fortified borders in Europe from that era was the iron curtain.



>> Even Labour is tame compared to what it was 30 years ago.

What? 30 years ago was the 1990's. The era of Blair and Brown.

Try and be historically honest, please.


New Labour was in 1997. 30 years ago was 5 years before that. And yes, that time saw the Labour Party shift towards European-style centre-left policies.


No, New Labour was 1994 when Blair took over the leadership, not just when he became PM.

And before that was John Smith. Pro-European and further to the left than the more centrist Blair.

Again, please be historically accurate.

You're not just insulting my intelligence and memory, but the legacy of truth of dead men.

Thank you.




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