What this whole debate totally misses in the USA at least, is that it even only exists because of a bigger violation and distortion of the Constitution, the freedom so implicit that it crossed the minds of the founders of America even less than having to protect the right to keep and bear arms, the right to free association, being allowed and able to chose who one wants to associate with and who one fires not want to associate with. We are not able to do such a fundamental thing in America today, by law (de jure, Sotomayor), as it had been prohibited through perversion and in violation of the Constitution through the amendment off that very Constitution.
Almost all other arguments over moderation v. censorship are a derivative of the most fundamental freedom, freedom to choose, control over one’s own life. That natural human right simply does not exist in America (and moist western places) anymore, effectively all the “civil rights amendments” have done the opposite off their states objectives, they have institutionalized federal government enslavement, total domination off federal government control over your life. You no longer get to chose shoo you associate with, you’re slave master federal government decides on who you are allowed to associate with. You are as free as you are permitted.
All this other debate of moderation and censorship is meaningless noise, merely beating around the bush to discuss rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
And for all our foreign friends, whether they are in America acting as if they are American or outside of America, all of these matters related to the Constitution are very relevant to you too, whether you understand it or not, because all the freedom you have and think you have is a direct derivative of the founders of the USA creating the Constitution. Most people have just taken it so for granted or it is all so abstract that they do not understand any of it, because not even a person of European background can be American without understanding these things properly, let alone someone without European ethic and cultural background.
That may offend people hearing it, but it does not make any of it less true. In fact it is the “moderation” that is inherent censorship, which even prevents the system from self-correcting, i.e., moderating, because it is really just perversion, i.e., distortion, being called moderation.
There would be nothing to discuss about this topic if the world dominating tyrannical evil of forced association did not exist.
We tried it the other way for a while and found that if people are completely free to choose who they associate with (specifically in the business space), it compromises other national ideals, such as meritocracy.
The curtailments on freedom of association are very narrow and focused on specific constraints.
But this country was founded on an understanding that there are some fundamental freedoms of choice that aren't there if you want to have a functioning society work together. And some of the ones that the founders believed would be acceptable we fought a bloody war to remove. The freedom to choose is inalienable but (much as we still have a right to liberty and jails at the same time) inalienable rights can be curtailed in the name of having a functioning society.
I believe they are referring to the Civil Rights Act, and specifically its restrictions on business and hiring practices from denying service or opportunity based on the color of one's skin, one's region, one's sex, etc.
I did. There reference to the “civil rights amendments”. It’s not as narrow as the “Civil Rights Act” as someone else commented, but that is also included as a consequence of inferior law.
To simplify it for you, you inherently cannot have the right of free association if there is no means to freely associate, because the ability to do so has been taken from you by force of perverse law.
I find it quite curious to live in a world where people do not understand that they are slaves, probably due to the fact that they have been conditioned to understand slavery as only being possible when there are chains and “black” skin involved, i.e., conditioning. I have never met a single other person who really understands that slavery is a mostly mental conditioning, chains and related iconography are merely just that, icons or a symbolic representation that abstracts away what slavery really is.
Most slaves, even in the deepest South American jungle plantation never wore chains. Chains ares unnecessary once you have properly trained your slaves to their condition. That applies to western slaves that make up the majority of western nation countries, likely including you too, as well as the slaves all over the world producing things in farms and mines so higher level slaves (you?) can, e.g., feel virtuous and privileged by being obedient and rewarded and, e.g., by driving electric vehicles.
Slavery never ended, folks, it just pivoted the business model and if you are reading this here, you are just a more privileged slave, maybe even a slave master.
Almost all other arguments over moderation v. censorship are a derivative of the most fundamental freedom, freedom to choose, control over one’s own life. That natural human right simply does not exist in America (and moist western places) anymore, effectively all the “civil rights amendments” have done the opposite off their states objectives, they have institutionalized federal government enslavement, total domination off federal government control over your life. You no longer get to chose shoo you associate with, you’re slave master federal government decides on who you are allowed to associate with. You are as free as you are permitted.
All this other debate of moderation and censorship is meaningless noise, merely beating around the bush to discuss rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic.
And for all our foreign friends, whether they are in America acting as if they are American or outside of America, all of these matters related to the Constitution are very relevant to you too, whether you understand it or not, because all the freedom you have and think you have is a direct derivative of the founders of the USA creating the Constitution. Most people have just taken it so for granted or it is all so abstract that they do not understand any of it, because not even a person of European background can be American without understanding these things properly, let alone someone without European ethic and cultural background.
That may offend people hearing it, but it does not make any of it less true. In fact it is the “moderation” that is inherent censorship, which even prevents the system from self-correcting, i.e., moderating, because it is really just perversion, i.e., distortion, being called moderation.
There would be nothing to discuss about this topic if the world dominating tyrannical evil of forced association did not exist.