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Between laying off 50% of jobs and pushing employees to work 12 hours a day, how is there enough morale at Twitter to even develop the myriad of new features Elon wants?



I suspect there just won't be. But for those of us not working there, it will be an interesting data point, to see how it goes.


Elon and the 50 super engineers from Tesla are going to sleep at the office until it’s fixed


Wait a second, everything I see about Elon online says that he alone is the super genius who invented electric cars and space travel. The engineers who work at those companies are just assistants; people to massage his shoulders as he tackles the next impossible technical problem himself.


Exactly, the 50 super engineers will stand behind Elon as he executes and engineers and allll the e's.


I've heard rumors that Tesla engineers are Python while Twitter engineers are Scala.

Is this true? If so, what could 50 Tesla engineers do?


Nothing, because they don’t understand RecSys which is half of ML at social media companies. Probably could help with prediction for ads but the domains are very different.


Ad targeting at Twitter has always been shit. Also effectively deprecated. Best starting from scratch.


well, not design a self-driving car, for starters


Hey, trolley problems are open-ended!


harsh, but fair.


They obviously rewrite Twitter back to Python! Afterall, this shouldn’t take them more than a Sunday afternoon - or at least that’s what Elon gave them as the deadline.


Python is significantly slower than Scala.

But I guess with all of the users leaving it should balance out.


3.11 is pretty fast. Probably roll with rust over scala.


Wouldn't be surprised if a mass rewrite happens just for the control it brings.


That's exactly what I think is going to happen: A giant rewrite with half the staff, overworking to burnout, cratering morale, and a struggle to hire. In short, a disaster.

But if that doesn't happen, well, it will be interesting to see how it goes...


Twitter definitely uses Scala in many of their core services.

https://github.com/twitter

Finagle and Scalding are particularly well done libraries.


From the job posting, it seems Tesla is using some Scala too.


Parts of Tesla almost exclusively use Scala.


It was a joke bro.


But ~50 Tesla engineers being pilfered using public funds to try and help Twitter is obviously happening right now.

I agree this is a joke, but maybe not the kind you were looking for. Is Twitter even paying for this? And if so, who would think that Twitter could possibly benefit from a bunch of programmers who don't even know the codebase?


> using public funds

Wait, what? How are Tesla engineers being publicly funded?


> Wait, what? How are Tesla engineers being publicly funded?

Tesla is a public company. Every year, they go back to their shareholders for another secondary offering, asking for more money. In exchange for this money, Tesla (the company) gives these tokens (aka: Stocks) out.

These stocks represent the public's interest in TSLA. Every TSLA shareholder is the true and legitimate owner of the company. TSLA shareholders likely shouldn't be happy with Elon Musk using their money to fund his private Twitter shenanigans.

Its definitely embezzlement as it is. The question is if TSLA shareholders care enough to sue. They probably don't care. So I don't expect anything to happen.

As long as there are stocks out there (IE: As long as there are public stocks in existence), the CEO + Board has a fiduciary duty to do what is best for the company. We're witnessing a clear and evidence destruction of that relationship, as TSLA engineers seemingly work for Twitter.

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Legally, and more importantly _morally_ speaking, if Elon Musk really wants to do this, he should take TSLA private so that his public shareholders don't get defrauded / embezzled throughout the venture.

Not that I think the typical political environment has enough people caring. But if TSLA starts to have money issues, people will ask questions a few months from now (IE: No one cares about embezzlement as long as times are good. People only really care about such theft when the money seemingly disappears. Its just human nature unfortunately)


How do you know that the Tesla engineers aren't being billed to Twitter?

I'd be very surprised if they weren't, frankly.

Contracting your employees out to a different company is not "embezzlement".


I do believe my quote is:

> Is Twitter even paying for this? And if so, who would think that Twitter could possibly benefit from a bunch of programmers who don't even know the codebase?


Then you went from there to "Its definitely embezzlement as it is."


Ah, I see. I read that as "public" in the sense of "government".


I’ve heard rumors that Tesla Engineers wear purple shirts and Twitter engineer tuck their green shirts in


Surely there are plenty of engineers rejuvenated by the prospect of fixing Twitter.


Well, Twitter's no longer public so they won't benefit from any long term stock price appreciation. I wonder if there's any other bonus structure in place, or if Elon plans to cut everything to the bone.


If the $8/mo is a good pivot, then sure. And there's lots of reasons to think it's not. E.g. I pay $15/mo to access the entire Netflix library. I'd pay roughly half that to do what exactly? To get a blue checkmark?

It would be different if Twitter pivoted and went towards the Cameo model where people pay for a celebrity's well wishes or say getting an expert viewpoint on demand.


Acquihire.




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