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> My phone came with a USB-C to Lightning cable,

That's interesting. I got a USB-C charger when I bought a Pixel phone, but it was the only one I've ever owned and it got lost pretty quick. I remember thinking how annoying it was that it didn't work with any other cables in the house. Every other USB-C device I've bought came with a USB-A charger and USB-A to C cable, including my current phone.

Apple is one of the last holdovers from an age where every phone company had proprietary cables and chargers. The way I see it, they are happy to make user and developer hostile decisions in the name of profit because they know their base is too entrenched to extract themselves. This particular one is annoying, and while probably not _that_ bad when viewed in a vacuum, but there is an undeniable trend.



> Every other USB-C device I've bought came with a USB-A charger and USB-A to C cable, including my current phone.

Wow, really? That is an interesting choice. One of the best aspects of USB-C is the increased power ability, which is unavailable if the head end of the cable is just connected to an old USB-A port. I mean, I get that Micro-USB was so awful that everyone abandoned it quickly when USB-C was invented, but why did they half-ass the solution?

I don't buy the argument that Apple is milking users with proprietary cables. They created a solution to Micro-USB when nobody else would, and they've stuck with that choice for 10 years. They have been moving iPads over to USB-C over the past few years, so clearly they will get there with the iPhone too, but you and I both know the bitching about that will be far louder than the complaints now that Lightning is proprietary. An original Lightning cable still works today.


> Wow, really? That is an interesting choice.

It is interesting but very pragmatic for this situation: until somewhat recently most computers and chargers only had USB-A ports.


> until somewhat recently most computers and chargers only had USB-A ports

Yes! In fact, the only computer I have without any USB-A ports is my work laptop, which is non-coincidentally, an Apple.


I'm old enough to remember the first wave of outrage when Apple dropped the serial port (and floppy disk!) and started using this weird USB thing that only their devices supported.

What goes around comes around. Don't worry, in a few years you literally won't remember that you thought of USB-C as an "Apple thing". Or at least you won't mention it.


Well I literally wouldn't pay money for an apple product these days, so maybe. Lol


Apple charge cables used the industry-standard USB-A for many years until they switched recently to the industry-standard USB-C. They have never required a proprietary charger block, not in the 15 years iPhone has existed.

They have always required a proprietary cable, which has always been supplied with the phone.




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