Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

Correct. The subsidies were supposed to go for retrofitting builds, covering employment costs due to lower demand, and to cover costs due to being shut down. All of which were due to government policies.


==covering employment costs due to lower demand, and to cover costs due to being shut down.==

Except that there wasn't lower demand across the whole economy, only very specific industries. Most businesses were not shut down. Lots of businesses continued running, and had increased demand. They still got forgivable loans.

Perhaps the perception it has more to do with who signed the legislation (a Republican President and Senate) than whether it was actually "socialist" (it was)?


>Except that there wasn't lower demand across the whole economy, only very specific industries

Obviously some industries weren't impacted. Many were though. The GDP also declined.

You can probably say the same about every recession.

>Most businesses were not shut down

I never said they were. I've seen some estimates at 200,000 businesses. A huge number of businesses went out of business as well.

>Lots of businesses continued running, and had increased demand.

And lots of businesses who continued running had decreased demand.

Even if the demand remained the same or increased they might not be able to meet the requirements like outside eating or distancing which would limit their revenues.

>Perhaps the perception it has more to do with who signed the legislation (a Republican President and Senate) than whether it was actually "socialist" (it was)?

It is not socialist. Socialist can mean either state controlled or worker controlled. This is corporate welfare.

Just to be clear. I am not defending this policy. I am strictly saying that this is more justifiable then paying off student loans since the government literally shut many businesses and put other rules on businesses.


But they didn’t only give loans to business who were shut down. That’s the point.

You claimed businesses got loans because the government forced them to close. I am saying that plenty of business that didn’t close (and saw record demand) sought and received loans. Nobody made them take out PPP loans. Once you acknowledge that, it looks a lot like student loans.




Consider applying for YC's Winter 2026 batch! Applications are open till Nov 10

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: