Russia doesn't publish its incarceration stats, apparently.
Also, would the millions of Uighurs in concentration camps in China be considered "incarcerated" or is this simply a definition left to non-autocratic democracies?
The Wagner PMC is recruiting cannon fodder for the war in Ukraine in Russian prisons. The Russian incarceration numbers may be improving drastically as we speak!
One would think think detaining a million Uyghurs would equate to incarceration. I certainly do think so.
But on the other hand, if you need to compare yourself to countries such as China and Russia and have your defense be "well at least we don't have concentration camps", you know you have work to do. Maybe the US doesn't have the highest incarceration rate, be it per capita or absolute, but it does have the highest rate of incarceration of any modern 'free' society. And that is a shame.
Even accepting grossly inflated propaganda figures, ~2M were detained over multiple years, with the vast majority on short sentences (months). We're talking stat shifts of low 100,000s locked up for months spread over 5 years. It wouldn't have shifted PRC per capita internment figures to be comparable with the US.
Or that by all accounts mass internment phase is over, majority have been released, extra problematic elements that couldn't be fixed in a few months/years are removed from society with lifetime sentences. The TLDR is "mass internment" is a temporary tool in PRC for deradicalization initiatives with deadlines in mind, not permanent conditions supported by prison industrial complexes like in the US. XJ securitization was expensive, not profitable.
> Since 2017, up to 1.8 million Uighurs, Kazaks, and other Turkic minority groups in the northwestern Chinese region of Xinjiang have been swept up in what is probably the largest incarceration of an ethnoreligious minority since the Holocaust.
Adding the right minority groups will give you however high number you need, but even he admits it’s not just Uighurs. And the result is still better than US incarceration ratios.
(Or course this about largest incarceration is bullshit too, but hey, he needs to be making money somehow, right?)
There are only twelve million Uighurs on the planet, and the US murdered six million random Muslims as a response to a 9/11 planned and committed by Saudi nationals.
Also, there aren't millions of Uighurs in concentration camps in China. There were an enormous number of Uighurs rounded up, usually for dubious reasons, in a a ruthless Sinoization campaign meant to stop efforts (with terrorism and bombings) to create a breakaway republic. Notably, China nearly cloned the US's anti-Muslim anti-terrorism language in order to justify this dragnet. Since then, virtually everyone has been released and the program wound down. US nationalists will still be talking about it 50 years from now as an excuse for why we need to hurt Chinese people, as if the Uighur crackdown had the staying power of our indefinite prison in Guantanamo Bay.
Excuse me? Calling out a dictatorship that's committing genocide has exactly nothing to do with American nationalism nor with "hurting" people of some ethnicity.
I'm also Jewish. Your statement is equivalent to saying Jews still talk about the Holocaust 50 years after it happened as a way to hurt German people. Or that Blacks talk about slavery as a way to hurt white people. These were groups that were victims of racial genocide and you're using the oldest cheap trick of holocaust revisionists to blame them for making some other racial group feel guilty...?
It was the communist party, the nazi party, the institution of slavery. Not the Chinese, the Germans, the whites. We call the truth out to try to prevent it from happening again. Racist propagandists and the peddlers of denial, who are also the ones to commit genocide, come up with the shallow excuse that the victims are racist.
Pretending that people talk about CCP concentration camps to "hurt Chinese people" is an explicit propaganda attempt to cover up or change the subject from an actual racial genocide committed by the Chinese government, by using an imaginary, nonexistent racist response from the west that makes "Chinese people" into the narrative's victims. Keep polishing that, one day it might sound as good as Putin's version about victimized Russians.
Also, would the millions of Uighurs in concentration camps in China be considered "incarcerated" or is this simply a definition left to non-autocratic democracies?