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Model 3 vision only does the same.


How often would you say you get false positives with your Model 3?


I have a model X raven (2019) and model 3 awd (late 2021), both have radar and hw3, and both have the update that has disabled the radar.

Pre-patch there was maybe a phantom brake (hard brake) every six months, but lots of small slowdowns where you could almost sense the car got conflicting input (once pr 100 km maybe).

The latter is gone and I have not had any phantom brakes yet, but I've had a slow down where a bus went into my lane. The cars behaviour in stop and go traffic is also much better now.

The only regression I've found is that it's a bit more confused in a local spot where the road splits in two in a turn to the right. In the past it went into the right lane without much fuzz, but now it is confused for a second or two before it decides on the right lane.

Tbh, as a daily user of these cars I think the no radar update was an improvement.


  > The only regression I've found is that it's a bit more confused in a local spot where the road splits in two in a turn to the right.
Since the issue is reproducible, you should find a bug on it. Tesla is responsive and this will help everybody.


Every single time I use autopilot. I stopped using it.




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