That's not what we're talking about . I'm taking about UX.

You said "the console experience". Surely that covers all aspects of using a console, not just the ones you find satisfying?

What are we even talking about here?

How about Macs , you can't really do anything to fix a MacBook Air if it just doesn't want to turn on the next day.

Same thing with gaming laptops. Do we really need to have a true Scotsman argument, is real PC gaming only done on a tower desktop PC that you built yourself. And for the HN crowd of course this needs to be running a customized installation of Arch Linux.