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It’s not an unfair set of points and this one rings true harder than most:

> It’s extremely hard to be friends with your co-workers. You have to go out of your way to reach out and be available. Friendships don’t happen “organically” like they do in the office

…because, most people seem to think they can just on their asses all day, don’t post on slack, don’t talk to anyone other than on standup and just get work done.

So many tickets done.

So totally miserable.

I’ve seen first hand so many times the last couple of years. There’s only so much you can do to reach out to people and give them the opportunity to engage.

…but they have to be proactively social.

Some people don’t like that, but it’s the reality of working remotely.

Also, get a standing desk. :)

Sitting all day is bad for you, and it forces you to take breaks.



>> It’s extremely hard to be friends with your co-workers. You have to go out of your way to reach out and be available. Friendships don’t happen “organically” like they do in the office

>…because, most people seem to think they can just on their asses all day, don’t post on slack, don’t talk to anyone other than on standup and just get work done.

>So many tickets done.

>So totally miserable.

Oh no, people being productive at their jobs. I went remote for this, so I don't have to socialize at work and can actually get things done. My friends exist outside of the work sphere.


I’m not saying it makes everyone miserable.

I’m saying I’ve seen it make lots of people miserable.

…and you won’t make friends or build relationships with your work mates if you don’t put effort into it.

You may not care; that’s fine.

If you’re a happy and don’t care what coworkers think of you, do whatever makes you happy.

I was responding to the OP which was about things they struggled with about remote working.

What are you responding to, other than “lol that’s not me”?

Good for you. If you’re happy, why did you bother to respond?

What’s your advice? How do you deal with the issues the OP mentioned?

I tend to get responses like this from people who are being defensive about putting no effort into their professional relationships.

It’s fine. If that’s a thing you place no value in, don’t do it.


I wouldn't say your coworkers should be Friends with a capital F, but a certain level of friendship is very helpful. Like it or not, your coworkers are humans and they have emotions. A little socialization helps see people as humans and give them the benefit of the doubt when there's a misunderstanding, overcome other communication hurdles, etc.


I'm sorry that you think being productive at your job is the only thing that's important in your life. Maybe you've just gotten really unlucky with the people you work with, but for me, finding people I actually enjoy spending time with really improved my quality of life at work significantly.


> So many tickets done. So totally miserable.

Sorry, I can’t hear you over having a life outside of work. (That life is almost entirely centered around my dog, we have amazing adventures almost every day, AMA)

> Sitting all day is bad for you, and it forces you to take breaks.

So it’s only mostly bad for you ;)


"Working with people you're friends with" and "having a life outside of work" are extremely not mutually exclusive. You can work with people you enjoy working with and still work 8 hours a day.




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