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There are forms of suffering that society is powerless to prevent or treat, no matter the priority we place on it or the resources we put behind it. Whether genetic or due to random chance, some people will have little hope of happiness or even temporary alleviation of suffering, and it’s wildly unjust for society to declare that our collective values supersede those of that person’s, and so therefor their suffering must continue indefinitely.



Then they can be helped in their suffering. Even those who are supposedly incurable can be helped in some way, if they allow themselves to be helped. Not to sound callous about anyone's suffering, but the meaning of life is not the avoidance of pain and suffering. We all suffer to various degrees. Our response as a society should not be to administer death as a treatment option.


Pain and suffering will be part of anybodies life. Often suffering can even have a positive effect longterm. But people who want to kill themselves often see pain/suffering to an amount so great that it only makes them more miserable over time. We as a society can try to help these people, but all in all we really don't (at least where I've been).

I am convinced that a society which doesn't want to commit the resources to help the people who need help must not forbid these people to choose to kill themselves if that is the only solution they can find by themselves. Administering death is not a treatment option society should choose, but the people themselves should be allowed to do so.

If people get good help a lot of them will choose to keep living.


There is no logic to your argument.

There is no inherant reason to life.

The biggest issue with this topic is, that it spits in your face if someone else doesn't think lifing is the only answer after becoming aware of yourself.

But lets take a view which YOU might understand: Imagine yourself without arms and legs. Only way to move around is by asking someone else. Every means of eating or switching the tv channel is by asking someone else. That person actually doesn't even like you but its the only option you can afford.

Imagine being kept alive because alive is the main goal of all of things.

Are you aware that if a medic finds a person without arm and legs (and lower body i think), there is a suggestion to try to not helpm them?


Which medics is that? I served in the US Army and while not a 68W I did run the 10 day medic course the Army offered and at least to the US branch, I can assure you no one is being told to try to envision surgical, prosthetic, and rehabilitation success rate ratio. Medics are masters of two things.....they can stop bleeding and keep air flowing while maintaining suppressive fire with their other hand and plan out what they want for dinner later and not miss a beat. But they don't have the same level of education as a Licensed Practical Nurse and are the last people anyone should want making that kind of call.


there was a documentary about a person (in german) who survived without arms and legs and i beliefe no hip/parts missing of his hips.

The doctor in this documentary said that in these cases its prefered to give pain relieve medication instead of helping surviving further.

I was not able to find it thou.




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