Wow, that went quickly from what could have been an interesting discussion on ethics to accusations of amorality and labelings of psychological problems.
Is it ethical to wrangle students through inane, dull exercises that seem practically designed to kill their curiosity and desire to explore knowledge?
In that situation, would it not seem more ethical to get past the exercises in the quickest, least-damaging way possible to be able to do more fulfilling things in life?
Or is doing exercises a moral obligation, regardless of their ill effects on the student?
That's a discussion worth having. "You know, like a psychopath" short-circuits that.
> In that situation, would it not seem more ethical to get past the exercises in the quickest, least-damaging way possible to be able to do more fulfilling things in life?
Or is doing exercises a moral obligation, regardless of their ill effects on the student?
If you only care about yourself and not the impact on others. Cheating is not a zero sum game. You are depriving others, and are committing fraud.
Perhaps the least damaging way would be to seek professional help to better yourself so you can cope with any “ill effects” you get from doing “inane, dull exercises”.
Or finding a course or career that doesn’t require you to endure activities you don’t want to do. Running your own business maybe.
I feel like you're the one unhelpfully flinging accusations. Apparently I'm not allowed to respond in the way I did? Your comment itself seems to "go quickly" from ethical discussion to short-circuiting that with feigned surprise - "Wow". Your first and last paragraphs do little but accuse/label, and your comment would be far better without them. But then it would just consist of 3 apparently rhetorical and rather loaded questions. It seems they're actually making a statement - so why not actually make that statement, actually say what you wanted to say, instead of letting the unspoken do all the work, and making me guess what that statement is.
What I was saying was amoral and psychopath-like was the act of "excluding ethics from the picture". You have reacted as if I'd said that the person I responded to had those qualities. Sorry I wasn't clearer, to avoid that apparent misunderstanding.
Your questions seem puzzled, irritated, as if I obviously have no common sense or understanding of what life's like, and you've had to instruct me in the basic realities, like a condescending teacher to an unlearning novice. I'm not sure what I said that suggests that. I would've thought it would be uncontroversial, a mere repeating of the dictionary definition, to suggest that to exclude ethics from the picture when acting in life is amoral, and like a psychopath.
> Is it ethical to wrangle students through inane, dull exercises that seem practically designed to kill their curiosity and desire to explore knowledge?
You mean like what they are going to have to do when they actually start working?
You can always discuss the fact that the exercises are bone chillingly boring with the professor, and potentially you don’t even have to do them because all your score comes from the test.
But at the end of the day, if your professor/boss tells you to do the boring stuff, you either do it, quit, or get fired.
They are students attending a university to learn new material from a professor who is an expert in the material and has taken the course themselves. The “inane, dull exercises” may be what is expected in the career path chosen.
Cheating only kicks the can down the road to a failed career and possibly even criminal behavior. Best path for a student with that attitude is to drop the course or push through it and reevaluate their educational choices.
Is it ethical to wrangle students through inane, dull exercises that seem practically designed to kill their curiosity and desire to explore knowledge?
In that situation, would it not seem more ethical to get past the exercises in the quickest, least-damaging way possible to be able to do more fulfilling things in life?
Or is doing exercises a moral obligation, regardless of their ill effects on the student?
That's a discussion worth having. "You know, like a psychopath" short-circuits that.