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The "nuclear" ones are ionization type, which have the useful quality of being cheap. Otherwise, they're almost, but not entirely, worthless as far as being a smoke detector goes.

The other type is the photoelectric type, which is generally more expensive, but rather radically more likely to alert for the sort of fires that kill people.

Ionization types are really good at detecting the emissions from flames. They're disturbingly bad at detecting actual smoke - so the name "smoke detector" for them is a bit misleading, IMO. If you've got a grease fire or something going with basically no smoke, an ionization type will detect this in a hurry, and they're also rather prone to false positives as noticed by anyone with one of them near a kitchen.

The photoelectric types aren't so good at detecting flames, but are quite good at detecting smoke in the air. In some tests, they alert 30-40 minutes before an ionization type notices a problem.

But the problem comes when you start looking at the type of fires that actually kill people. The bulk of fire deaths are from overnight fires, in which something is smoldering (and smoking...) for half an hour or longer before the heat gets to the point that the piece of (usually furniture) ignites. The photoelectric type will alert to this smoke. The ionization type waits until the [whatever] has actually caught fire to bother doing anything - which is far less useful, because by the time the couch has caught fire, the room and the rest of the house aren't far behind. Some realistic tests have shown that there's literally half an hour or more of alert from the photoelectric type, down to "A minute or two" for the ionization type.

Skip Walker has done a number of presentations, and some of his work can be found here:

http://www.propertyevaluation.net/Photoelectric%20vs%20Ioniz...

> In tests, ionization alarms will typically respond about 30 to 90 seconds faster to “fast-flame” fires than photoelectric smoke alarms. However, in smoldering fires ionization alarms respond an average of 15 to 50 minutes slower than photoelectric alarms. Several studies indicate that they will outright fail to activate up to 20-25% of the time. The vast majority of residential fire fatalities are due to smoke inhalation, not from the actual flames and almost two-thirds of fire fatalities occur at night while we sleep.

> In 2007, UL published the “Smoke Characterization Study”. This study tested both types of smoke alarms using current UL testing standards and materials; they also tested the alarms using UL test criteria integrating a variety of synthetic materials and current tests such as smoldering toast. The results are frightening. Ionization alarms failed the UL 217 test 20% of the time using the current standard test materials. This is the test that the alarms must pass 100% of the time to be offered for sale and installed in US homes. When tested using synthetic materials, ionization alarms DID NOT TRIGGER (DNT) in 7 out of 8 synthetic test scenarios. In the one test where the ionization alarm did trigger, it activated at a level exceeding maximum allowed under the UL standard and nearly 43 minutes after the photoelectric alarm in the same test.

He also has a presentation up that just drills down, over and over, into data, studies, etc. The results are quite clear: in the sort of fires that actually kill people, photoelectric smoke detectors radically outperform ionization types - and this is found in study after study that looks at "fires vs fire deaths vs smoke detector types" as well.

https://structuretech1.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ion-vs...

You can spider off those if you want, but you really should put at least a few photoelectric smoke detectors in your house.

Don't bother with the combo detectors. They're either an "or" gate, which gives you the worst of both worlds, or an "and" gate, at which point the photoelectric sensor can be screaming its head off about the smoke, but the alarm won't sound until the ionization type detects flame products.

> I'd rather have freaking IR cameras looking for too much heat (outside of kitchens).

They've been tested against smoke detectors and are worse than even ionization types for detecting early fires.



Now I wonder how we allow companies to try to squeeze every drop of profit from life saving devices. Smoke detectors cost a good few tens of bucks here in US, and they still feel the need to use ionization instead of photoelectric? I've taken a few photoelectric smoke alarms apart, and it's literally just an LED, a photodiode, some cleverly shaped black plastic, and a few integrated circuits. I imagine doing reliable averaging/signal conditioning wont be super trivial, but surely it's something that can be all integrated into a single IC for cheap. All of that should seriously cost no more than half a dollar to produce at large scale.


I have no idea. That sounds cheaper than trace radioactives to me, but the photoelectric ones are reliably more expensive than ionization, at least around here. And a lot harder to find, too.

I'm pretty well annoyed that ionization types are still allowed and the default, if it doesn't show. "YOU LIT THE KITCHEN ON FIRE!" alarms are nice, but radically less useful than "Hey, something's smoking and has been doing so for a while and you're all asleep," based on empirical evidence from the studies on fire deaths. Fires while someone's awake and (often enough) involved in the process are important to warn about, but if one has to pick between that and the stuff that kills people at night, I'd bias towards the ones that (a) meet the requirements they're supposed to meet and (b) provably save lives.

I suppose I ask too much... :/


Wow, where I am you can get a photoelectric smoke alarm for approx USD 7, or one with a 10 year battery for US$12. Ionisation type detectors are pretty much gone from the market.


Some people might automatically assume that anything that feels modern is bad. Ionization calls to mind the space age, vacuum tubes, and the like, while photoelectric makes you think "Oh, a computer and a sensor like everything else we make".

People love to rush to the defense of anything slightly but not that significantly dangerous, and seem to feel that there has been a loss for all mankind if it goes.


The false alarms you get from the heat detectors are exceedingly annoying to. My last apartment, I had heat detectors as well as carbon monoxide detectors. I could not use the oven in my kitchen without setting off the heat detector in the hallway. Literally open the door after a preheat, and the damn thing goes off. Nothing burning that should be burning (it was a gas oven after all). Lots of open doors and windows (always fun in winter Chicagoland) and waving of towels at the detector...

I lived in that apartment for over 10 years... Never once had a "real" fire, but easily had hundreds of alarms. Very, very low signal to noise ratio...


The simple answer is put ionization detectors near the kitchen/fireplace which have open flames, and photoelectric detectors near bedrooms which tend to smolder.


That would lead to a whole bunch of false positives when people are cooking. Which is an issue too.

Anecdotal: a friend had these in apartment and they ended up covering them with sacs everytime they wanted to bake meat. Cause otherwise the whole building risked evacuation just because they wanted damm baked chicken or something.


Steam from showers sets off some types of smoke detectors as well. I know of a student halls of residence that had them. In the uk that type of building is classified as high risk so the alarm system is directly connected to the fire brigade. Cue grumpy firemen making students stand out in the rain at 1 in the morning every couple of days while they search the building for a non existent fire.


Ok yeah I could see a problem if you had a gas fired oven. I cook electric, as long as I don’t burn the food the detectors don’t care.




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