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> This is one of the reasons so many people have varying levels of distaste aimed at "MBAs"

And the other is that a lot of the decisions that bring up anti-MBA shitstorms and flamewars make it more than obvious that ethics were not much of a part of the MBA program the offenders attended.

The most obvious example of ethics getting railroaded was Boeing, and look where it got them to.



Liability is the other side of the ethics coin. Professional Engineers have liability and carry insurance as a result. MBAs? Not so much.

Look at the Boeing MCAS and VW emissions scandals. Individual engineers and test pilots were named and faced repercussions. The MBAs that sustained the environment where this poor decision making happened? Aside from the very senior executives, we have no clue who they are. They were able to stay in role or slink off to another opportunity. They might not even think they had any culpability.


I remember a VW executive going to prison, but the news reported him as an engineer, and so everyone thought the execs got away with it.


Note that most engineers in the US are not licensed (IIRC about ~20% are), are not liable for things like this, and do not carry such insurance.


And the fact that nearly every company that has ever been lauded by the MBA industrial complex has collapsed (or was seriously damaged, or caused serious damage to society) as a direct result of the very same management practices and fads that the MBA industrial complex spent years or decades trying to cram down the throats of the rest of the country.

* Enron

* General Electric and the lord and savior of MBAs, Jack Welch

* Valeant Pharmaceuticals

* Sears

* IBM

* McDonnell-Douglas (and later Boeing)

* Intel

* Stock buybacks in the airline and retail industries


Or how many companies got broken up into small, stock-sized chunks to be profitably sold... and then once covid and the delivery chain issues hit, they were too small to survive on their own without government assistance.




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