The no fly list shouldn't be a thing. Even for suspected terrorists. If you are guilty, you get arrested. If you are suspicious, you get extra scrutiny at security.
Travel is as fundamental a right as speech and propery ownership. You don't put convicted road ragers and drunk drivers on a no-drive list. Either a person has liberty and the presumption of innocence or they don't. Eithet they are punished once and for good by the law or they are not. This tongue-in-cheek betrayal of every fundamental binding principle of a democratic society has gone out of hand.
No double jeopardy, no unequal treatment before the law, no presumption of guilt, no extrajudicial punishment.
Or let's just get rid of the facade and let the oligarchs appoint a dictator to do their bidding.
Yet, on planes your travel even as a passenger can be restricted with no due process, judicial oversight and sometimes as a double punishment.
I mean, if DHS or other TLAs flag a person as a threat, they should be able to do something about it... just not "you are on a list now because we say so" and no oversight or appeals process. This is not liberty or a free society. In a free society you don't have "national emergency" that spans multiple generations (20+yrs now) that allows overriding peoples rights and liberties.
The airlines should be allowed to refuse service so long as they are not coordinating a ban list, and even then.
> You don't put convicted road ragers and drunk drivers on a no-drive list
Many people have lost their driver’s license over road infractions. Most states publish a table of the progression towards suspension and revocation based on the actions you’re convicted of.
Travel is as fundamental a right as speech and propery ownership. You don't put convicted road ragers and drunk drivers on a no-drive list. Either a person has liberty and the presumption of innocence or they don't. Eithet they are punished once and for good by the law or they are not. This tongue-in-cheek betrayal of every fundamental binding principle of a democratic society has gone out of hand.
No double jeopardy, no unequal treatment before the law, no presumption of guilt, no extrajudicial punishment.
Or let's just get rid of the facade and let the oligarchs appoint a dictator to do their bidding.