Agreed and also a very fristrating thread to read. Seems like most HN people are Silicon Valley or startups?
It goes like this:
- Company is has IT in the 90s and 2000s. They have computers and a LAN and WAN. They use Windows. To manage Windows, Active Directory is needed/used. So Windows Server is also used. For email, the use Exchange. There is just no alternative because you want users to use the same account in the AD.
- Company starts virtualizing their DC with VMWARE later on, but stuff is still on-prem.
- In 2010 Office 365 comes out. Makes sense to have Office 365 host your email and Office as you are already on on-prem Exchange. So they migrate over the emails.
- When Azure comes out, it makes sense to move to that too. Your IT admins already know Microsoft. And you can use your Windows Server licenses etc.
Now if you are starting a brand new company in 2020, sure, use gsuite, notion or something else.
But its gonna be hard to switch over.
And this is not Tech debt. The stack actually works really well.
The only thing is that Teams is pretty heavy as a client, but its amazing in how you can just use Teams for an entire day as its integrated with SharePoint and OneDrive so all documents etc are there.
It goes like this:
- Company is has IT in the 90s and 2000s. They have computers and a LAN and WAN. They use Windows. To manage Windows, Active Directory is needed/used. So Windows Server is also used. For email, the use Exchange. There is just no alternative because you want users to use the same account in the AD.
- Company starts virtualizing their DC with VMWARE later on, but stuff is still on-prem.
- In 2010 Office 365 comes out. Makes sense to have Office 365 host your email and Office as you are already on on-prem Exchange. So they migrate over the emails.
- When Azure comes out, it makes sense to move to that too. Your IT admins already know Microsoft. And you can use your Windows Server licenses etc.
Now if you are starting a brand new company in 2020, sure, use gsuite, notion or something else.
But its gonna be hard to switch over.
And this is not Tech debt. The stack actually works really well.
The only thing is that Teams is pretty heavy as a client, but its amazing in how you can just use Teams for an entire day as its integrated with SharePoint and OneDrive so all documents etc are there.