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Yeah. People forget that capital allocation works differently in China. You ban something they want, they simply make it themselves.

I think banning their access to EUV lithography via the export ban of ASML machines is going to backfire horribly on the US. China has started allocating absolutely ridiculous amounts of money to hard science and have also changed the way they fund and prioritize projects to make them more commercially targeted. The end result of this is they now have a very large number of very smart scientists with nearly infinite funding being told to solve for the rest of the fab pipeline.

ASML might retain their monopoly for a few more years but I think this move will eventually result in Chinese building even better machines and likely more practical and for less money - as is the Chinese way.



>> ASML might retain their monopoly for a few more years but I think this move will eventually result in Chinese building even better machines and likely more practical and for less money - as is the Chinese way.

The complexity of ASML EUV light sources is incredible. China might just use a synchrotron for that. Sure there are issues to resolve but it seems like it has to be simpler in the end.


I think the bans are strategic in that we need a capable foe. By banning the right things, it ensures that they are at parity with us.

A smart colonial power doesn't cut off access 100% but rations and controls access to resources.

I can't wait to buy a refrigerator sized fab on alibaba for 25k in five years.




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