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What I am about to say has nothing to do with endorsing Apples decisions. But people in developed countries tend to miss what happen in less favorable places. Two major problems: Robbery and used iPhone scams.

Where I live, I often decide to leave my 12 mini at home because I don't want to be robbed. If I take it, I cannot take it out of my pocket until my destination.

They steal you, if you are lucky that's it. If you are unlucky they hold you at guns point or knifes edge until you remove your iCloud account. Cops can't do much, as they use minors to do the robbery and police can't enter the places they disassemble the iPhones, not even if your FindMy is pointing exactly where it is. Minors caught are released after about 12h of being held and are found doing the same thing next day.

When you want to sell/buy used iPhone, you might also be at risk. You can be robbed trying to sell and you can buy a completely remix of a phone from scrapped parts and non original parts that put together can barely work. People repairing sometimes never had formal training, and it could affect safety.

I wonder if Apple considers this at all. It would be naive to think any of what Apple is doing is intended at developing countries safety, but I can't stop thinking the warnings about non-legitimate parts would maybe help people buying second hand, and there is a very small hope in me that it become less lucrative to steal phones in the future.




Thank you for an interesting perspective.

Here in the US, Apple will lie to customers and refuse to repair even trivial problems. There are many documented cases of Apple simply lying to customers (ala Louis Rossman).

I had a phone that at 30% battery life would shut down and die. I was going on a trip and really needed a reliable phone. I took my phone to Apple, they hooked it up to their diagnostic software-- which found the battery to be fine-- and they wouldn't fix it-- now here's the twist-- I asked if I could pay (even though it was in warranty), and they said "no." They also said it was the fault of the Facebook app installed on the phone that the battery wouldn't last. I can't tell you how insulting that was-- I had numerous apps in the App/Play store at the time and had developed stuff used at Apple. To be told by a guy who works at a mall that I was using my phone incorrectly-- left a bad taste in my mouth.

I attempted to do the repair myself and somehow bricked the antenna system and had to buy a new phone. Apple got what they wanted in the end... but I'm looking for alternatives.

I owned one of the first Intel mac-books-- it would spontaneously reboot-- Apple denied the problem for like a year.

I owned an iMac which I spent a fortune on, and its GPU died. Apple after denying the whole thing, eventually issued a recall, but not for my specific model even though it clearly had the problem. I ate that 2.5k or so.

I've owned numerous iPhone's with defective home buttons-- the pattern is always the same. Apple delays admitting there's a problem until far after you might have had to deal with it fiscally.

Apple is a bad-faith actor in the end... It would be one thing if they had good-faith service and I could go to Apple for help and be treated fairly... But Apple's response is always the same, "Hey, maybe its time for a upgrade?"


Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I'm not sure I could keep shovelling money into a manufacturer that caused me so many problems. But I guess that's the Apple ecosystem at full force and it can be hard to "escape".

Closed systems like the Apple walled garden are always bad-faith, from beginning to end. Personally I have tolerance for max 1 problem from a manufacturer, if I ever have a fault that is not adequately resolved then I will never buy from them again.


Aye, but... I have only two choices, Apple and Google. When you've had a bad experience with Apple and Google-- which you surely will-- what will you buy next?


This. I recently bought an "second hand" iPhone XS advertised as those came from shop display phones. It was in good condition: no burn ins, battery at 80% health. When the screen broke after dropping it, I went to some shop for repair just to found out its remix of parts from other iPhone ( apparently the motherboard came from South Korea ). This made the device very fragile as some of the screws maybe missing and screen are not properly mounted. The iPhone XS I bought had one missing screw and no display adhesive.


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