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I can't get into too much detail because I've been historically involved in this research and I'd rather not have my identity public on HN.

I do have to say that I was more than a little surprised that this would be such a controversial subject given the rather obvious patterns observed. But it very much was, and it still is.

Frankly, this experience was not positive for me, since it showed me how politically charged these things are, something which makes no sense to me. I mean, even your comment strays off right into who-is-making-the-argument, rather than whether it might be a problem that half of the school kids are falling further and further behind. I know that if I had boys entering school, this would concern me, but it's hardly even acknowledged.



I don't know you, nor your views, but consider that the reason this happens is that the people pushing this are acting in complete bad faith. They are not interested in using objective measures to help struggling groups succeed, they are merely using this fact to reinforce and promote their reactionary politics. Solving the problem will weaken these groups and their views which is why actually doing anything is out of the question.

As you can see from the rest of the replies to your comment, it is merely a convenient launchpad for advocating incel-derived views of men's "rights", white supremacy etc. Maybe you don't see anything odd about this, but the reactions you're seeing in the real world happen because normal people don't want to be seen advocating for these views.

I worry far, far more about boys falling into black hole of cynicism and victimhood. I've seen it happen to adult friends of mine and it's tragic.


I saw neither incel nor white supremacy in any of the replies to lordgroff's top-level comment. Are you sure you're not projecting?


It seems they were deleted. There were comments going several levels deep about how this is as a result of the vilification of white males, how colleges are full of days celebrating everyone but whites, how it's totally understandable why white supremacist groups have taken "it's ok to be white" as their slogan, etc, etc. Lots of pretty standard right-wing dreg.




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