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What I find the most shocking about all this is that people believe Facebook when they said it was E2E. If you can't inspect for yourself the default assumption should be that they're lying.

I even recall recommending Signal to friends -- nope. We use WhatsApp it's E2E so even safer than Signal or Telegram that are deceitful as you have to use secret chat to get E2E! All these FB messenger advocates seem to have the same arguments and yet none of the knowledge about how it works and this ludicrous "trust" in FaceBook.

At least authoritarian regimes are distrustful of Telegram and Signal -- banning them.



> We use WhatsApp it's E2E so even safer than Signal or Telegram that are deceitful as you have to use secret chat to get E2E!

Just a minor correction, Telegram is the one that is only E2E encrypted via their secret chat feature. Signal is E2E encrypted at all times, and open source.


There is no indication that Facebook can read any messages sent encrypted. The headline might be given the wrong impression. But of course, Facebook can read messages which are sent to them in clear text to inspect them for abuse.




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