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Of course I can imagine an identical failure happening at a different airport with different ground conditions. Just like I can imagine that there would be even more conservative safety margins to go along with possibility of worst ground conditions.

Do you think there’s a single flight plan used for every plane and airport? Of course there isn’t, a new flight plan is created for every single flight, with margin built into to handle the expected conditions in flight and at landing. So if you’re landing at an airport that gets snow, you increase your required runway allowance to ensure that a lose of all three flight computers doesn’t become dangerous.



Not dying when you missed seeing a stop sign and cruised through an intersection does not demonstrate anything positive about your planning. It only means you were lucky. That the plane stopped with only 10 meters to spare does not demonstrate a lack of danger; it demonstrates how easily the result could have turned out very, very different. Being only one second later applying brakes would have used up another 300 ft of runway.

If you imagine that an identical landing would not have been attempted on a snowy day, you know nothing about airline operations. And, if you don't understand the role of luck in averted disasters, it is a good thing you don't have any actual responsibility.


Go an read the report again. It clearly mentions that the pilots didn’t apply maximum breaking till they were a good way down the runway.

That strongly suggests the pilots were worried about locking up their wheels, and thus were applying the minimum breaking they though they could get away with. Up until they realised they were running out of runway.

The runways could have been an extra 600ft long, and they still would have only stopped within 30ft of the end, because it’s quite clear the pilots were trying to use up as much of the runway as they thought they could get away with. A perfectly reasonable approach when you don’t know how hard you can break without causing a loss of traction.

You shouldn’t read so much into the amount of spare runway left when you’re dealing with a situation where consuming every spare inch is the safest cause of action.


I am so glad you have no responsibility for public safety.


What can I say. The report and remedial actions pretty much agree with what I’ve said. So those who are in charge of public safety are taking a very different stance to you.

Guess we’re all screwed, probably explains why air travel has such an atrocious safety record compared to other forms of transport.




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