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Two things:

1. This guy has it right where he doesn't cook the sauce first. To many people use a cooked pasta style sauce on pizza. It's just not right.

2. This website has that classic, 1998, don't give a shit, just a bunch of HTML and IMG tags look. Love it.

It's just a massive amount of information on a single page.



Fantastic website. Far better than 98% of the sites I’ve visited this year. Far better than any site designed by a front-end engineer. Loaded fast despite all the pictures. No cookie warning. No doorslams. No static elements taking up half the viewport. The only thing it needs is a max-width to limit the line length.


Yes! I think before someone calls themself a "web developer" they should go view pages like that and bask in the instant load time. View source on that page and take a moment of silence to appreciate it. And then think about it every time they add a newsletter subscription call-to-action or auto-playing video.


Unfortunately it's usually the bloat that makes money for these websites, whether they're ads or auto-playing videos.


At this point, I'm starting to think somebody could turn this into a viable business model. An app/site where extreme performance is literally the unique selling point.

"It's like $POPULAR_APPLICATION, except it loads fast like Craigslist"


I'd pay for it. No joke, 100 percent serious. Just give me an Outlook web client that doesn't make my laptop freeze for 30 minutes.


> No doorslams

For those who don't know this means popups asking you to download the app or sign up for the newsletter


Agreed. I even read it in an Italian accent.

The content speaks for itself (not pun intended).


As a long-term career front-end engineer, I take this sneer personally. I don't know any who think that stuff is a good idea.


Sorry for any personal offense; I was partly exaggerating for effect. If you’ve been able create, for a company or organization, a site that eschews all the abuse and annoyances of the modern web, I’d genuinely love to see it. Please supply a link.


No, I havn’t been able, and that’s the source of my frustration.

In a medium or large company, it’s very difficult to get this opinion heard. Layers of decision-making and power plan this out months before hands-on devs get to do much good. In small companies, speed and cost-limiting almost demands we make bad decisions.


No, I'm pretty sure that was serious.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28280051


Really?

I found it impossible to read on mobile.


You're... you're going to read a ~30k word essay on pizzas, on your phone?

That itself seems impossible on mobile, regardless of whether you scroll or swipe or whatever.


90% of web activity nowadays is done on mobile, including long form article reading. You're the odd one out if you don't.

That said I find this article easy to read on mobile.


yes, poor me for being the odd one out for not having to bend my neck over reading a 4" screen. i much prefer having my screens at a height that does not require me to look down like i'm a hunchback. the only time i see people holding a phone up to their face is on video calls, but that's just vanity not wanting that up angle look.

honestly, it's one of the things I've always hated about reading books. i've just never found a comfortable way to read. it definitely has to do with why it takes me longer to read a book than other people.


The comment I was replying to described the website as “perfect”, so I expect the website to be accessible. Quite frankly, it doesn’t matter where I decide to read it and on what device I decide to read it on.

HN people praising 90s web design like this as the epitome of design is comedy.


What? I regularly read entire books on my phone.


I read 100+ page books on my 6.4" phone regularly...


I had a friend who read books regularly on the iPod Touch I gave him (3.5" screen). For a while he was flying multiple times a week so he binged through all the LOTR books and then all the Harry Potter books.

I would have spent $79 on a Kindle, but...


I used to do it on smaller phones, too. But it became way more comfortable as screens went past 5 inches.


Use Reader View.


I found it easy to read on mobile. The only problem was that the tables were a bit small. Maybe you need a better phone.


> Maybe you need a better phone

Maybe you need a better brain


Don't think so, i was able to read the article okay.


Man those text colors are pretty awful though.


Also the yellow background, randomly changing font size, and use of underline. Definitely has that authentic Geocities feel, though.


Are you kidding? The line lengths alone are ridiculous. It's awfully designed.


2. It's easy to forget that the original HTML spec was meant for end-users to use directly to author documents. It was originally designed to function like markdown, because a lot of the DOS-based word processing editors at the time also had similarities that end-users could grok.

The current reality of technical literacy, despite the information on html being accessible, is so far from that original ideal.


> It's just a massive amount of information on a single page.

And no BS. I kinda miss the old web.


I sometimes wonder if a "squarespace for the old web" would make any sense. Sorta ironic, but maybe it could work...


I dunno, I like a cooked sauce sometimes. Lucali cooks it and it adds a nice caramelized flavor to the pizza. Part of the beauty with pizza are the many different ways to make it. I also like the Difara/Lucali etc. way of adding multiple cheeses, usually a low moisture mozzarella and a Parmesan, sometimes also a fresh, wet mozzarella. Doesn't mean pizzas with only mozzarella are bad.


Lucali also rolls the dough, which upsets some purists, but they make a great pie


it definitely had to have come after '98, as it had a solid background. in '98, we were still fascinated by animated gif tiles repeated to fill the background or some other pattern only slightly less annoying than animated.




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