> THE RESEARCHERS DO NOT ARGUE THAT THE EMERGENCY VACCINE IS USELESS
We are in agreement on these points, and to be fair I never made such a broad claim, nor did I intend to insinuate such.
You seem to be concerned with defending vaccination which is understandable, but I believe you're interpreting my statements as completely disregarding the utility and benefits of vaccines, which is not a position I support or attempt to argue.
> Do you realize that the extent to which vaccinations stop transmission is on a continuum? It is not "on", or "off" in exact terms.
We are in agreement on this point as well.
> The current COVID-19 vaccines immunize to an extent that the re-transmission rate is negligible.
A citation on this claim would be greatly appreciated - "negligible" is strongly worded there. FWIW I'm aware of the literature showing that vaccination reduces transmission, but I've never seen it dismissed as negligible.
Thanks for the citation you did share, it's indeed very relevant.
> why it in fact poses a greater risk to those who choose to stubbornly remain unvaccinated
We are in agreement that viral immune escape also poses a risk to the unvaccinated population, especially those who have not acquired natural immunity.
> I'm not going to continue on this conversation
> trying to talk to you would be extremely stupid on my part
I'm sorry I've put you off - my position is not set in stone and I do my best to keep an open mind when presented with conflicting evidence.
I get the impression that you think I'm incurably "anti-vax", so to clarify: my opinion is that vaccines are a powerful tool which must be carefully and strategically used.
We are in agreement on these points, and to be fair I never made such a broad claim, nor did I intend to insinuate such.
You seem to be concerned with defending vaccination which is understandable, but I believe you're interpreting my statements as completely disregarding the utility and benefits of vaccines, which is not a position I support or attempt to argue.
> Do you realize that the extent to which vaccinations stop transmission is on a continuum? It is not "on", or "off" in exact terms.
We are in agreement on this point as well.
> The current COVID-19 vaccines immunize to an extent that the re-transmission rate is negligible.
A citation on this claim would be greatly appreciated - "negligible" is strongly worded there. FWIW I'm aware of the literature showing that vaccination reduces transmission, but I've never seen it dismissed as negligible.
Thanks for the citation you did share, it's indeed very relevant.
> why it in fact poses a greater risk to those who choose to stubbornly remain unvaccinated
We are in agreement that viral immune escape also poses a risk to the unvaccinated population, especially those who have not acquired natural immunity.
> I'm not going to continue on this conversation
> trying to talk to you would be extremely stupid on my part
I'm sorry I've put you off - my position is not set in stone and I do my best to keep an open mind when presented with conflicting evidence.
I get the impression that you think I'm incurably "anti-vax", so to clarify: my opinion is that vaccines are a powerful tool which must be carefully and strategically used.