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From "Masters of Doom":

> In the fall of 1988, the eighteen-year-old Carmack reluctantly enrolled at the University of Kansas, where he signed up for an entire schedule of computer classes. It was a miserable time. He couldn’t relate to the students, didn’t care about keg parties and frat houses. Worse were the classes, based on memorizing information from textbooks. There was no challenge, no creativity. The tests weren’t just dull, they were insulting. "Why can’t you just give us a project and let us perform it?" Carmack scrawled on the back of one of his exams. "I can perform anything you want me to!" After enduring two semesters, he dropped out.



Yes, not surprised by this. There is a difference between a degree and an education. I will repeat this over and over: university is a nursery for young adult who have no idea what to do with their lives.

I'm not discounting higher education, but to me, degrees are a way to filter people by arbitrary forms of selection, and calling that "merit", and then justifying that "losers" deserve their social status because their failed at school.

Universities should be open for everyone, students would help each other, professors and teachers would organize to deliver education the best they can. Students who fail to follow will just stop coming to classes by themselves. There is no need to filter, because eventually, you will filter out students who actually learn and have the potential to use that education.

Just keep universities open.

I'm constantly hearing that teachers and professors spend a large portion of their time filling paperwork, instead of just teaching and helping students.

And I'm not even in the american education system, I live in france, which educate a large portion of the best math students.


I think the way you create this is to make college education free and of good quality for prisoners. To get the general public to agree to this, education would have to become free for everyone, at any age.


Can't think of anything worse than making it free at this point, putting the tax payer on the hook for a disgusting and bloated system that has gotten fat from signing young people up for predatory loans at a vulnerable point in their life.

Only way I'd agree to free higher education would be if it could only be staffed by people who have actually held the jobs they're claiming to be educating you for. Nothing seems more absurd to me than paying someone thousands to prepare you for a job when that person themselves has never had a real job outside of the academia clique which is far removed from the real world.


It's because computer science isn't about programming...


It’s definitely not about memorizing, and it should be challenging.


It's a common enough story. IIRC Jonathan Blow also dropped out of college because it was useless to him other than to secure a piece of paper.




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