In Europe, everybody wants to be a manager because mere developers is not high enough status. In the US, a 45yo DB engineer is akin to highly skilled wizard.
True, this was also my experience before I moved to the US.
Generally speaking, in Europe, the technical career track
simply don't exist. You are eventually forced to take the
management career path. Eng are seen as the ones scrapping
the floors.
In US, at big tech companies, you can stay on the tech career
path and get to Principal, Architect, Distinguished Eng etc.
At these levels, your voice is heard as much, if not more, as
managers.
IC contributors and managers job titles are mapped to an internal company level.
For instance, a Principal Eng usually map to a Director. You can easily tell where you are in the career ladder, regardless on the specific track you are on.
Yes, but depending on your yearly income there is another tax separate from the normal income tax (inkomskatt), if you earn more than 523 300 SEK you also need to pay "statlig inkomstskatt" at 20% for everything above that rate.
And previous year 2020 was the first tax year without värnskatt, an extra 5%, ie 25% total, for everything above 703 000 SEK. It was abolished 2019.
In the UK you pay 60% on anything between 100K and 125K, then it goes back to 40%. Above 150K it goes to 45%. This is only the income tax. National insurance would be 2% at those income levels.
In the UK you don’t pay taxes on the first 12500£ you earn in a tax year. This is the income tax allowance.
For each 2£ you earn above 100K, your income tax allowance is reduced by 1£. At 125K, your allowance reaches 0. The result is that between 100K and 125K your marginal tax rate is 60%. At 125K it goes back to 40%.
The only "good" part is that even managers in the Nordics have the same work-life expectations as the workers. Of course there are some managers who take work home more than others but unless you are in the C-level you can tell anyone who tries to make you work more than the usual 37,5-40h a week to kindly fuck off.
Tbh this isn't my experience in the UK. Manager is just one path people take; others aim for tech lead, or principal engineer. I really don't see how 'status' comes into this.
Principal engineers practically didn’t exist in the UK until a few years ago. Even now, a principal engineer would unlikely get any further promotions and pay rises, while an engineering manager could potentially become the CTO.
Yep.. you get paid shit as a dev here unless you run your own business.. has always been like that, will always be like that. Europe will never be big in software.
We have nice livable cities, and we have old cultures, that’s about all what’s good here
After the Bay Area, NYC and Beijing, London has the most startup funding of any city in the world, and the UK as a whole has the 3rd highest number of unicorns, after the US and China.
Parts of Europe are doing badly, others are doing ok (but could do better!).
Hope you moved as if I were you (reading all your comments here) I would not want to live here, and then in NL no less where I was born and people seem to like internationally. But if you dislike it so much I am not sure why you did not move to the US yet? Or even the UK which is a stepping stone but easier to get to.
