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To be fair this doesn't sound like a fishing expedition - they're looking for readers in a 35 minute period. Presumably they have a crime suspect or suspects who may have viewed it in that time. Ideally they would be able to narrow it down to specific IP addresses, but perhaps this is not possible.


if they can produce a warrant for this data, there's no reason why the site cannot comply. But to get the warrant must require a judge to grant it, and it must be lawful.


Lawful is an interesting term. Patriot Act was voted in and is the law of the land. It allows for NSLs and other rather controversial if not unconstitutional practices.

Warrant is not a must. This is not a movie. You would be surprised how many companies give you what you want just by calling as LEO.


> Patriot Act was voted in and was the law of the land.


You may think you are pointing out a grammar error, but I stand by the sentence as written. Nothing has changed since then.

It was voted. It is the law of the land.


A lot has changed, and a lot hasn't.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act

> as of December 2020, the Patriot Act remains expired

But various portions were reauthorized under other laws.


I will admit I did miss that delopment.

Weird question.. was 314a(b) one of those reauthorized pieces? I would assume so, but I am curious.


That is every downloader of a publication accessed potentially internationally within a 35 minute period.

That is not by any definition strictly/narrowly tailored, and if they are being deliberately vague about it to obscure ways and means that is even more alarming. If they are looking for someone in particular they should be asking for the highest time resolution possible to minimize the Constitutional blast crater w/regards the 4th Amendment.

Nevermind we're getting into surveillance via third party metadata via Third Party Doctrine again.




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