I think it’s perfectly reasonable to want to maximize your pay, and I don’t give anyone flak for that. I don’t think anyone has to settle for less if they have opportunities to get more. (Mind you, 95% of the time, when people say they could get more, they don’t actually have another offer in hand, they just posit the existence of it based off of what they’ve heard.)
But I’d prefer engineers simply reject the offer as opposed to insinuating they’re somehow being swindled. It’s ridiculous, especially given all the context.
It’s rich to discuss market economics, because there’s probably fewer than 100 companies, all located in the bay or NYC, and all rather prestigious, that pay the mad money being discussed. By and large, the majority of the market does not pay this much money, and the majority of software engineers could only dream of $200k base salary for an entry-level position. Pretty frequently, it is “snooty young devs scoffing”, especially when they have zero other offers in hand, and no prospects of getting them.
> (Mind you, 95% of the time, when people say they could get more, they don’t actually have another offer in hand, they just posit the existence of it based off of what they’ve heard.)
If they keep doing that, they'll only hurt themselves.
> But I’d prefer engineers simply reject the offer as opposed to insinuating they’re somehow being swindled.
How often do they "insinuate" that?
I'd chalk it up to bitterness: "Blind told me to expect a $200k offers, 10 of the best students in my graduation year got such offers, and I'm just as good as they are, why do I keep getting these lowball offers, the world is so unfair, these companies are so unfair trying to exploit me!"
> It’s rich to discuss market economics, because there’s probably fewer than 100 companies, all located in the bay or NYC, and all rather prestigious, that pay the mad money being discussed.
Nah, FAANG pays about the same in Seattle as they do in the Bay/NYC, and only slightly less in satellite offices.
> Pretty frequently, it is “snooty young devs scoffing”, especially when they have zero other offers in hand, and no prospects of getting them.
If that's the case, then they're only hurting themselves and prolonging their search. Eventually they'll have to settle for one of these position they scoff at.
But I’d prefer engineers simply reject the offer as opposed to insinuating they’re somehow being swindled. It’s ridiculous, especially given all the context.
It’s rich to discuss market economics, because there’s probably fewer than 100 companies, all located in the bay or NYC, and all rather prestigious, that pay the mad money being discussed. By and large, the majority of the market does not pay this much money, and the majority of software engineers could only dream of $200k base salary for an entry-level position. Pretty frequently, it is “snooty young devs scoffing”, especially when they have zero other offers in hand, and no prospects of getting them.