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Oh come on - you pay taxes, don't you? Either we get rid of money and we live in some kind of wonderland, or we pay for the society and expect it to be serious.

I am very much for a socialist society, like the one we have in France. I am ready to pay, and do it with pleasure, so that people born disabled, or living in poverty have a chance like my children do.

When someone makes the clear decision to have a child that will be disabled then that person must assume that the world will not be running to help them when they realize they have huge expenses. They wanted these expenses so please do not come crying afterwards, though campaigns.

This is very much different from accidents - we need to be solidar here.

This is very similar to people who smoke or eat to become overweight and then cry when comes the operation that costs a fortune.

Sorry - but I want my money to be spent on things that help the ones who need help and did not expect or predict to be in a bad situation. Not the ones who decided to have a disabled child becaise of some shower vision of theirs.




In the scenario mentioned, no one decided to have a disabled child.


See a few steps up in the thread:

> For the last one I err towards it being a personal liberty to decide what life you do and do not bring into the world. But it does get more hairy when you start discussing public support in terms of resources to support the child/family. Then it is everyone’s business imo. But I’d imagine people that can afford IVF don’t rely on government programs to finance their life.


Yeah, I still don't see anyone there deciding to have a child with a disability.


What in "to decide what life you do and do not bring into the world" is not clear?

Someone checks for disabilities with their to-be-born child, learns that they have one and then decides not to abort. This means they conscientiously make the choice to have one.

I do not think this need to be debated further.


> decides not to abort

That's deciding not to do something, not deciding to do something.


This is semantics. Deciding not to do something is a decision one takes. It is not like there is no choice.


Yes, and semantics are important. By your definition I make the decision every day not to end the lives of my children, who could for any number if reasons grow up to be a burden on the state.

Calling inaction deciding to do something is just a way to frame things to try and make action the default.




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