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> The aircraft itself is apparently excellent at what it does

I have heard the opposite from a test pilot who has flown it. He fucking hates it.



A lot of highly qualified people who have flown it say otherwise.

https://www.airspacemag.com/military-aviation/f-35-faces-mos...

Chip Berke is an F22 and F35 test pilot, and the first F35 Squadron commander. He's probably the most qualified person on the planet to talk about fifth gen aircraft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxK6O5--9Z0&t=203s


Admittedly my sample size is 1 so I'm not pretending my anecdata is conclusive, but you have to be wary of what people will say publicly about politically motivated projects.

EDIT: Although to be fair, I wrote that before looking at your links, I feel like that context is important (although I stand by my statement).


Sure, that's definitely fair.

The F35 has been badly politicized, but it has also been the victim of an absolute shitload of criticism from people who want it to be something it was never intended to be and are unhappy that the F22 was cancelled early.

If it were just that Colonel Berke liked the plane, it would be one thing. He really explains it in detail in the video. I'll admit I wasn't quite sold on the the plane years ago, but once I saw this video it pretty thoroughly changed my mind.

I realize the video is a bit long, and I almost never post links to videos -- but this one is well worth the watch.


One of the stupidest criticisms of the F-35 was from J. Michael Gilmore[0] former DoD Director of Operational Test & Evaluation. OT&E has a role, and is intended to be critical in their evaluation, but his reports were typically out of date, and didn't seem to reflect the consensus of the pilots and others actually operating the jet.

What made his criticisms ironically stupid was he'd never even SEEN the jet up close, or spoken to an actual pilot, only reviewed documents and read memos, until the very end of his tenure as Director of OT&E. He was not retained when Gen. Mattis took over as SecDef.

I've heard nothing but praise for LtCol. Chip Berke. He is a great fighter pilot, although now retired from the USMC.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Michael_Gilmore


Dubious.

The man cannot criticize the project publicly. In fact, he and his squadron probably have real opinions that never leave their base locker rooms.


“Not criticize” is again, one thing. People who want to just “not criticize” would keep their opinions to themselves and move on.

What Colonel Berke did in that video is quite the opposite of “not criticize”.


Users, amiright?


I actually laughed. Thank you.




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