And do you have any proof of that? Because in my humble opinion, the command line is great solely because keyboard is (up to now) the best input device we have invented. Any graphical tool requires eye-hand coordination, which slows things down considerably. Using keyboard you basically only depend on your muscle memory and can input commands to the machine way more quickly.
What you seem to miss is that developers tools are the best tools created in computer science, period. That's because we use them and we usually are too lazy to deal with stuff that bothers us, so we improve over time(and much faster than we do with tools for our customers). The only real problem is the learning curve, which is hard to avoid. So no, those tools are not bad. They just require some learning first, as pretty much any tool on this planet.
And yes, we could have better tools and we will have, that's how progress works. You just didn't make any useful suggestions how to get there faster.
The proof is that I develop for iOS, and I do not need to use the command line at all for this. Using it does not make anything easier and more efficient. It live this every day.
I can use the command line. I've used it for decades. I know it intimately, and I know just how many problems it has. Problems it doesn't NEED to have, but problems that we have just decided will be there, and we learn them, and live with them, and then complain when someone points out that they are, in fact, problems.
Developer tools really, REALLY aren't the best tools created, in any way, shape, or form. They are generally AWFUL. But we've convinced ourselves that we are clever if we know how to use these awful tools.
You repeat the previous content without any example on how they are better. To you it seems that not having to use command line is an advantage. To me it's not, making your argument moot.
I am saying that if I were to use the command line, things would not be easier for me. Thus, the GUI tools I have are superior to the command line.
I know how to use the command line. I could do it. But there is no reason to do so. It would not do a better job than the tools I have been given in the GUI.
That solely depends on your use case. There are three reasons to use command line and none of them has anything to do with being easier:
1. It's faster. You can(and will after some time) remember hundreds of different commands. That means that to make computer do something, you just need to type. Typing is usually way faster than clicking in GUI, especially for non-trivial tasks, which require moving through several layers of GUI.
2. It's scriptable. I can automate pretty much anything invokable from command line through.
3. It's gluable. I can connect output of the program to any workflow I imagine.
All of those are usually strictly worse in GUI. Of course, GUI has it's uses(analysing data is usually easier in graphical environment) and there is nothing wrong with your personal preference. I object solely to your qualification of CLI being worse just because of your own taste.
I am well aware. And I am saying that none of those are easier than the GUI tools provided in this case.
Sure, in some cases, those are useful. But not always. And programming, in general, is not really a case where those things are useful on a minute-to-minute basis.
> I am well aware. And I am saying that none of those are easier than the GUI tools provided in this case.
In your opinion
Trying to project your personal preferences as objective reality is not helpful. You don't like CLIs, fine. You sound like you've got some good reasons to not like them. Your assumption that everyone else shares your values is a little weird.
Personally, I love the CLI and have yet to find many instances where the GUI is easier to use and more useful than the CLI alternative. Does this mean I think all GUIs are objectively bad? Of course not. It's personal preference.
I think the currently popular cli, the old unix-based one, is esoteric, annoying, and still useful.
I think it could be a lot less of the two former and a lot more of the latter. But it will not be, because people are unwilling to even admit it has any flaws.
What you seem to miss is that developers tools are the best tools created in computer science, period. That's because we use them and we usually are too lazy to deal with stuff that bothers us, so we improve over time(and much faster than we do with tools for our customers). The only real problem is the learning curve, which is hard to avoid. So no, those tools are not bad. They just require some learning first, as pretty much any tool on this planet.
And yes, we could have better tools and we will have, that's how progress works. You just didn't make any useful suggestions how to get there faster.