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It made sense when they came up with it but it was a large can of worms which didn’t age or scale well.

Now you have a society based on mutual assured destruction at a civilian level devoid of trust and community.




> devoid of trust and community

I assure you, this has nothing to do with being armed. This should be pretty clear from a number of observations:

A) The most heavily armed communities in the US are highly community-oriented and trustworthy towards their respective in-groups

B) Lack of social cohesion seems to be just as prevalent in western nations with full disarmament

The actual proximate causes of social decoherence are things that HN is probably mostly in support of, on net; urbanization, multiculturalism, etc.


The difference when there are ubiquitous firearms and not is the level of fear and nervousness among strained relations. Any division is amplified then. All it takes is someone to lose it and it’s a cheap solution. And everyone knows it. The communities you speak of are a division.

I worked for a large defence contractor in the US for a number of years and got to see the contrast in professional and personal relations between their European and American employees. It’s scary when you see.


> when there are ubiquitous firearms and not is the level of fear and nervousness among strained relations

100% disagree. The saying "armed society is polite society" is absolutely true, at least when it comes to the interaction between arms and western social ethics. Obviously your results may vary in the Congo or Chicago or whatever.

Even if we accept the (most likely contextually false) premise that reducing firearms access for non-criminals also meaningfully reduces firearms access for criminals, I do not have any preference (ceteris paribus) between getting shot, stabbed, or having my head bashed in. In fact, I might prefer getting shot.

In the more realistic case where criminal firearm attainability is less than perfectly correlated with non-criminal firearm attainability, it makes sense for non-criminals to be armed as well.

There's also the MAD dynamic; people are less likely to physically escalate if there is a possibility of a high-severity response.

> it’s a cheap solution

A murder charge for an unjustified shooting is hardly "cheap".




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