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I can't believe that you actually decided to be held hostage by google and pay them to remove content that they would otherwise only put in front of you if you were looking. Its like paying a restaurant not to harass you and then going to it when you could just go to the restaurant next door without the protection fee. There is also a lot of good content for toddlers IRL.


> Its like paying a restaurant not to harass you and then going to it when you could just go to the restaurant next door without the protection fee.

No, it's like paying the restaurant for the damn food. YouTube hosting all the world's videos forever is not a god given right, nor is being able to watch content people create for free.

I despise ads, absolutely despise them, but gladly pay YouTube the $15/mo to remove them because I know good content needs to be paid for one way or another. There's still a few channels that I like that put in ads during the videos and that's still annoying, but otherwise I never see an ad.

And this is fucking fantastic! Imagine if the web as a whole adopted this. (I know there are efforts including Google's) If I could pay $10/mo to get rid of all ads (explicit and implicit) and have that go towards the creators that I consume content for, then we'd be in a much better place. (imagine if FB just got a cut of that for example, how that would change the dynamics)


I disagree that it is like it is paying for the food. If I had youtube premium and my entire $10 went to only the creators of the videos I watched using some egalitarian algorithm, then I would be into it. However, it is actually more like Spotify where some portion of my $10 (lets say $7, even though it is probably lower) gets put into a large pool and then distributed among all content creators on the site along with everyone else's premium money.

I have a patreon which I budget $20/mo to actually pay the creators that I care about. Don't kid yourself into thinking your YT premium money is going anywhere except unboxing videos and Minecraft screaming videos and the like.


Do you have any source on how they distribute payments? All I can find is this blurb which could be read lots of different ways (likely by design):

"Currently, new revenue from YouTube Premium membership fees is distributed to video creators based on how much members watch your content. As with our advertising business, most of the revenue will go to creators."

I support some creators via Patreon as well, but honestly that's just more work for me as my interests change and some months I don't consume any of their content.

I imagine the truth is that it is likely something Spotify-like or some variation thereof. I'm still ok with that and YouTube does make it explicit that the majority of my sub goes towards creators. FWIW I suspect there are some reasons that are subtle, bug valid, that Spotify for example distributes subscription fees the way it does, which I agree does seem kinda BS at first blush.

edit: some anecdotal info here saying that creators are indeed paid (handsomly) based on views: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/9agg5f/how_does_yo...


I don't think Spotify is any different here: money goes to creators/artists in proportion to watch/listen time, no?


> held hostage by google... Its like paying a restaurant not to harass you...

This level of entitlement is just staggering. You can pay for YouTube in two ways; watch adds or pay for add free.

Now, I get that the price for watching adds right now is too high. It simply ruins most content. But your metaphors are still just way out there.

In reality there are now 3 "tiers". - Premium. Pay with money. - Get a free taste. Choose if you want it. - Unwatchable content.

I don't think that is going to work out for YouTube in the long run. But shaming people for being willing to pay for actual loads and loads of quality content is not constructive.

On the other hand, I _am_ glad if this means that random, prudish advertising companies will hold less sway over YouTube at some point in the future, where subscriptions make up a bigger part of the revenue.


You can't "pay" by watching ads. Watching ads is a harmful and non-productive activity, so it's impossible to be obligated to do it.


If you don't want to watch ads you can always do something else. There's no shortage of things to do, and YouTube need not be high on your list.


Of course I could, but why should I? Ad blockers work fine.


That’s good too: just because they sent you some bit doesn’t mean you are obligated to read (/watch/parse/etc) them.


I pay $15 / month for the youtube music family plan. That includes ad free youtube and ad free youtube kids.

Youtube kids (with proper video/channel whitelisting) is the main thing my toddlers watch. It has BBC shows (peppa pig), PBS kids, and 2 great kid friendly content crators (Blippi and Steve and Maggie).

Of course there is lots of good "IRL" kids content, but propery setup, Youtube kids is pretty good and fairly priced in my opinion.


Most content is unbearable with Ads so I pay as I do every other entertainment service that I want to spend my time watching. With YouTube most of the revenue (55%) go to the creator which I'm also happy to support.

IMO it's a net positive that it has created new business models that's open to anyone with a camera/mobile.


One could argue that all good content for toddlers is IRL and none of the content on yt.


Paying for content instead of being fed ads doesn’t seem unbelievable to me.

On the other hand, the method employed by YouTube is just akin to its contents. 90% BS.


> decided to be held hostage by google and pay them to remove content that they would otherwise only put in front of you if you were looking. Its like paying a restaurant not to harass you and then going to it when you could just go to the restaurant next door without the protection fee.

Unclear why the attitude. Youtube is a business. It doesn't owe users anything for free regardless of what it did in the past or others have done.

Restaurants? You pay them to dine there. They operate at a profit or try to. And restaurants who offer either (or both) better food or experience get to charge more like any other product or service in life.

Sure google or any business does not exist to provide free things to people.


Actually, it's about paying for service received. You pay by ads or you pay by wallet.


Paying a fee to disable ads is not new. I've done it so many times before, starting ages ago with Salon.com and continuing on into Patreon-supported podcasts. Why not for YouTube as well?

The best reason I can think of is becasue of this effect: https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2012/07/13/156737801/the-...




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