We've lived in an individualist society that has left behind people like the OP. Almost no one, if anyone at all, argued for collectivism to undo the bad thing that happened to them.
You're argument seems to be that now that something bad has happened to enough people, it's time for collectivism. That is one massively bitter pill to swallow for all the people who have been left behind in the past and had to fend for themselves.
And why does it have to be all about what you want? Because you are part of a majority? Does that make it okay to steamroll other people, because you, as a member of the majority, have more value? Because more people agree with you, and you add all those people together, and you have more value than a minority? Do you not see how your argument has been used to justify all the terrible things that have been committed against minorities in the past?
All of this could be moot though if these vaccines are truly 95+% effective. Not everyone will need to get it for herd immunity. The most likely scenario seems to be a combination of natural immunity and vaccine immunity before we even have enough doses to give everyone.
I mean that’s just patently untrue in the US with programs like medicare/medicaid. There is not no one thinking about these things and arguing for making them better, so the rest of this is fruit of the rotten lazy argument tree as far as I’m concerned.
We've lived in an individualist society that has left behind people like the OP. Almost no one, if anyone at all, argued for collectivism to undo the bad thing that happened to them.
You're argument seems to be that now that something bad has happened to enough people, it's time for collectivism. That is one massively bitter pill to swallow for all the people who have been left behind in the past and had to fend for themselves.
And why does it have to be all about what you want? Because you are part of a majority? Does that make it okay to steamroll other people, because you, as a member of the majority, have more value? Because more people agree with you, and you add all those people together, and you have more value than a minority? Do you not see how your argument has been used to justify all the terrible things that have been committed against minorities in the past?
All of this could be moot though if these vaccines are truly 95+% effective. Not everyone will need to get it for herd immunity. The most likely scenario seems to be a combination of natural immunity and vaccine immunity before we even have enough doses to give everyone.