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> What exactly are your threat models that this is causing a problem for you?

I would like my computer to not connect to anyone or anything when it's powered on if I'm not running interactive apps that I specifically wish to use the network.

It's sort of like the bad old days with linux distros coming with like 47 listening services enabled by default. It took a while before they realized that defaulting things to "off" was the best move.

I encourage you to look at the pcaps coming out of a fresh macOS install with everything turned off: App Store, iCloud, analytics, FaceTime, iMessage. You'd be surprised how much it's doing when it's sitting there "doing nothing".



Then you can't use Windows or macOS or a mainstream Linux. They've been doing this for a long long time and they're not going to stop.


I would be surprised if Debian did anything like this. There is popularity-contest, but they are very explicit about it and it's opt-in. Other than that anything else would be considered as a bug.


> They've been doing this for a long long time

Apple has only been doing this for 3 major OS releases, or about two years.

On Windows you can run WPD[1] and turn it off, and also firewall the hosts it communicates with using the OS's built-in firewall.

Big Sur won't let you block Apple apps now.

[1]: https://wpd.app/


You should give https://www.w10privacy.de/english-home/ a try ;-)




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