38 Million infected, 18 Million visits and 22k death due to influence.
Corona now has 10 Million cases 240k death.
I mean, don't get me wrong, even if its 0.02% for 20-49 year old in USA:
1. Thats still a lot of people if we hit Millions of infections
2. you can also see that the death rate was much higher at the beginning: https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid
3. we are still not trying to get everyone from the street so they are not dying, we are getting them from the street that if they are dying, they are not dying because of full hospitals.
And of course doctors are getting better every day fighting it and learning more about it.
I personally absolutly don't mind sitting around for a year to wait this out. I only have one live and i don't want to have covid right now nor any long term issues from it.
Covid showed something quite interesting to me: You are better of in dooms day scenarios if you can sit it out a little bit.
Are you disagreeing with the CDC's numbers? I gave sources for a reason.
It's obvious why COVID-19 would have killed more people this year than a typical flu season: more people can get infected, because it's a novel disease which we have no prior immunity for. Additionally, infections are likely to be more serious, as immunity isn't a binary. Meanwhile the various viruses and virus strains that we call "the flu" has been around our whole lives.
But the fact is, if you do get infected with the flu, and you're young (particularly children), you're roughly as likely to die as if you get infected by COVID-19.
> I personally absolutly don't mind sitting around for a year to wait this out. I only have one live and i don't want to have covid right now nor any long term issues from it.
You are welcome to make that decision for yourself. But remember, others' will have different priorities. My job is mostly unaffected, so far. Other people I know have lost their businesses and careers. I personally know some people involved in food aid in poorer countries: people are literally starving to death due to lockdown.
The COVID-19 infection fatality rate by age is approximately the same as overall mortality by age. It shouldn't surprise people that many people would decide that they're willing to take that risk, especially when we have examples like Sweden, New York City, large parts of India, etc. to show that even uncontrolled spread is not an existential threat to society, and herd immunity kicks in and things go back to normal. (antibody testing has found about 20-30% of Stockholm, 30-50% of NYC, etc. has been infected, most without realizing it)
> Covid showed something quite interesting to me: You are better of in dooms day scenarios if you can sit it out a little bit.
You are lucky to be in a position where you can do that. A significant chunk of society can not. And the fact is, very few places in the world have been able to control COVID-19 without indefinite lockdown. It's just too contagious in most societies.
I have short term heart damage from covid. Wanting herd immunity is ignoring the suffering a good subset of the infected will experience. I guess your next line will involve something about suffering being better than dying. And I guess its okay that I can’t play with my toddler because of secondary effects because they were highly unlikely to die.
> Covid showed something quite interesting to me: You are better of in dooms day scenarios if you can sit it out a little bit.
Yeah this is actually really interesting because in a non-pandemic world taking the more conservative (lowercase c) approach to safety is less useful, but in our current world with a lot of genuine uncertainty and numerous catastrophes it actually nets better.
> I personally absolutly don't mind sitting around for a year to wait this out. I only have one live and i don't want to have covid right now nor any long term issues from it.
Yes, Please continue to have discipline and hold out against peer pressure to lower your guard. As someone who got covid, early 20s, exercise daily, low-processed food diet, no history of health issues, I got a mild case of Covid and the post-covid stage for me is much worse than the actual illness period and this phenomenon is very underrated in people’s discourse about risk assessment. Most people on this forum feel great arguing the pandemic on paper but have no lived experience of what this does to your body. 70, 80 days out where you feel super fucked up, new symptoms arise, random shit like pressure in your heart and chest, body aches day after day, extreme sensitivity to the cold.[0]
Imagine if covid were named HIV instead and people said, “look! After 10 months all these young people haven’t died. It must not be a big deal. Probably the flu”. Which is to say we still don’t know much about the virus. Most people in this forum are used to a world where every major disease of humanity has been studied for 20+ years,[1] so it’s sort of a confusion they have that they think the science is figured out. If you aren’t a biologist or studied biology heavily, science all seems like magic to you so it must be hard to tell the difference between something that is understood and not understood yet
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2019-2020.html
38 Million infected, 18 Million visits and 22k death due to influence.
Corona now has 10 Million cases 240k death.
I mean, don't get me wrong, even if its 0.02% for 20-49 year old in USA: 1. Thats still a lot of people if we hit Millions of infections 2. you can also see that the death rate was much higher at the beginning: https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid 3. we are still not trying to get everyone from the street so they are not dying, we are getting them from the street that if they are dying, they are not dying because of full hospitals.
And of course doctors are getting better every day fighting it and learning more about it.
I personally absolutly don't mind sitting around for a year to wait this out. I only have one live and i don't want to have covid right now nor any long term issues from it.
Covid showed something quite interesting to me: You are better of in dooms day scenarios if you can sit it out a little bit.