Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

What specific lie do you refer to? There seem to be many lies in play as far as I can tell. Some people might even go so far as to say that the entire conversation is composed of mostly lies, although that presumes conscious intent, which I would say is not the case.


The tent pole lie of the fine people hoax where Trump instead explicitly condemned white nationalists. He did the exact opposite of calling white supremacists fine people.


Ah ok I see, I thought you were disagreeing with me.

That's a good website, I had literally never seen that video before. That's kind of what I mean by my comment, it's downright hilarious to come here onto forums and watch people argue about their respective perceptions of reality, while the vast majority of people think they are actually arguing about reality itself (which is what your video shows). That it has zero effect on most people (well, maybe makes them even angrier) is what is so mysterious about the working of the mind.


Michael Malice has outlined the 4 major red pills in approximate order.

1) I'm being misled systematically

2) I've been misled since school

3) They are fully aware of what they are doing

4) Given the choice, they would prefer me dead over defiant

In my estimation this is clearly establishing 1 & 3. The people arguing on this forum are victims of their trusted information sources. But there is no way the Biden campaign and professional media whose job it is to suss these things out had no idea.

The hard part is not falling into Gell-Mann amnesia. We saw this with our own eyes and know they misled us. When the next news story comes out, will we just accept it as fact? Most will, I admit I catch myself struggling with this.


I saw Malice on Lex Fridman, he seems like a pretty smart guy. Any idea if he has a blog or anything less time consuming than one of his books?

> But there is no way the Biden campaign and professional media whose job it is to suss these things out had no idea.

That's what's so hilarious about reading forums, especially populated with intelligent people. It's like, do you guys really think not a single politician or member of the media can spot the gaping holes in these stories? Or, does it seem plausible that almost half of voters opted for reelecting Trump because they're racist, cult members, etc? But then those questions are answered on the regular in comments and voting.

> The hard part is not falling into Gell-Mann amnesia. We saw this with our own eyes and know they misled us. When the next news story comes out, will we just accept it as fact? Most will, I admit I catch myself struggling with this.

I am really looking forward to the drastic swing we're going to have in narrative, and observing how the masses react to it. Reddit is already well underway, but once the momentum gets going it will be awesome. Will be interesting to see how long it takes before we need to engage in some regretful military intervention in the middle east. Seems like street level terrorism has suddenly reappeared out of nowhere in Europe, seems like a decent enough base for some narrative spinning.


@MichaelMalice on Twitter

Michael Malice on Youtube

http://michaelmalice.com/ - a few of his articles are here

I have some predictions:

1. Covid is not a big deal anymore. I'm already seeing articles with the narrative change.

2. Assuming Biden is sworn in in January, BLM and police violence against blacks will disappear from the national consciousness before April.

3. 100% agree with you about regretful military intervention

4. Russia definitely did not interfere in the 2020 election


Ya I've seen the COVID narrative change too. In my local city, the popularity of the lady running our PR campaign has been off the charts since the get go, and rightfully so, she is calm, cool, evidence based, no fear mongering whatsoever. All business + compassion/calmness, and the perfect personality for it. But then the last announcement we had, we had an absolutely massive spike in cases (larger than anything in the first phase), well deserving of increased prevention measures in response (at least from a consistency perspective). Except this time, the specific recommendations were...let's say "weird" - like, completely nonsensical. Zero alterations at all to bar or restaurant policies, no increase in mask requirements in stores, only recommendations for minimization of gathering in personal homes. I cruised on over to my local city subreddit, where one would usually find overly enthusiastic cheerleading for the fine job she was doing...but this time, I can only describe it as...like, total confusion, helplessness, a perception of cognitive dissonance on behalf of these decisions. I assume this will be noticed and adjusted for, but it was something to see.

BLM (or at least media coverage of it) died right before the presidential debates got underway, in magical coordination across all media. I don't expect to hear much about the topic again either, depending on the quality of the Republican ticket in the next election of course. Malcolm X explained how that works to us all in the past. That's another weird quirk of this whole production, why were none of the historic speeches of serious black intellectuals entered into the public discourse? I guess not a single person thought of it.

I hope you are enjoying your silent downvotes as much as I am enjoying mine. What a time to be alive! :)




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: