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There's still signature matching. I didn't say it's impossible. It's just virtually impossible to do at enough scale to matter w/o getting caught and evidence of it occurring doesn't exist. The GOP has looked for it really, really hard.

https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d

The vast majority of people are both a) honest; and b) not going to risk a felony just to cast a single fraudulent vote.

I can't prove a negative here, so if your argument is that it happens and it's impossible to detect or we just aren't looking hard enough, I don't know what to tell you.

Meanwhile, voter suppression and disenfranchisement exists! It's right there to see. A higher voter turnout would reduce the impact of any single fraudulent vote.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/13/912519039/a-look-at-voter-sup...

https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-...

The most recent fraud attempt I'm aware of, the culprit got caught. They were collecting absentee ballots and then not returning them. (NC no longer publishes who's requested an absentee ballot till after the election to make this harder to do.)

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/746800630/north-carolina-gop-...



I'm not asking you prove a negative and I am not even saying fraud happens at any significant scale. I am just saying that confidence in the system is important, and we could have done better on that axis.

There are a lot of people I know who are saying (in a casual, let's-not-start-a-war-over-this tone) essentially "yeah, it was tilted to get Trump out, but no surprise there, and Trump will never prove it". We really could have done a lot to make the situation better.

FWIW I think my state did a pretty good job, but it's not a swing state.


> "yeah, it was tilted to get Trump out, but no surprise there, and Trump will never prove it"

That’s cognitive dissonance at work.

The GOP has a structural advantage in the EC, the Senate, the House, and legislatures across the country[1,2]. Despite the GOP candidate having won the popular vote for the nPresident once out of the last eight (now nine) elections, they control six of nine seats on the SCOTUS. Despite Trump having a single term in office, he’s appointed 30% of the Federal judiciary with judges who are on average several years younger than the judges Obama appointed.

If anyone has reason to complain about tilt, it’s Democrats. Trump lost the popular vote by four million votes. I know it’s only the EC that matters, but that doesn’t make the system any less fair.

Trump voters are complaining about a tilted field that exists only in their imaginations. In reality, the electoral process in the U.S. currently favors the GOP.

1. A particularly egregious example is here in NC where the GOP won 50% of the vote in 2018 but secured 10 of 13 districts.

2. https://insideelections.com/news/article/the-gops-long-term-...


Also, in 2016, Trump's margins:

- MI: 10,704 votes.

- PA: 44,292 votes.

- WI: 22,748 votes.

He lost the popular vote by nearly 3M votes. That's with an assist from Russia and Comey.

Despite all that, Clinton conceded the next day. She called Trump and congratulated him. She gave a gracious concession speech saying things like "We have seen that our nation is more deeply divided than we thought. But I still believe in America and I always will. And if you do, then we must accept this result and then look to the future. Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead. Our constitutional democracy enshrines the peaceful transfer of power and we don't just respect that, we cherish it. It also enshrines other things; the rule of law, the principle that we are all equal in rights and dignity, freedom of worship and expression. We respect and cherish these values too and we must defend them."

No one accused Trump of fraud at the ballot box. She didn't seek to undermine the democratic process. She graciously accepted defeat to a man who had been threatening to lock her up.

Lastly, he was the incumbent this year. That's such an advantage that the incumbent has lost only five times in a hundred years.

The field was definitely tilted this election as in the last, but it was in Trump's favor both times.




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