The fringes of this material gets wild and significantly less credible really fast. It is very important to stick to the hard facts when dealing with government wrongdoing or you open yourself up to the “conspiracy theory” thought stopper charge.

Wild conspiracy theories help cover up actual conspiracy and malfeasance.

The stuff you are referencing is definitely not impossible, but it’s unproven and likely unprovable and is mixed in with a lot of trash. We have enough documented stuff about the government meddling with the counterculture (e.g. COINTELPRO) that we don’t need to make shit up or chase phantoms.

> Wild conspiracy theories help cover up actual conspiracy and malfeasance.

I'm not sure what you mean here. Do you believe the principal actors in the publicly known and acknowledged aspects of MKULTRA were not held to account because of 'wild conspiracy theories' which had little traction outside fringe newsletters in the 1970s when MKULTRA came to some semblance of public light? Do you believe the general public would be more aware and educated about these abuses if not for the existence of those theories?

There's nothing outside hard facts in any of what Tom O'Neill has printed, so you can save your charges that I am "making shit up" or "chasing phantoms." The idea that he is exploring connections to the other historical events I mentioned is so far just rumor, but rumor to which O'Neill himself has lent some credence on his own Twitter page: https://twitter.com/chaosmansonbook/status/12990091441424179... https://twitter.com/chaosmansonbook/status/12990005775952486...

Everyone already knows the standard narrative line that "MKULTRA was a temporary, discontinued, and largely unsuccessful program, which like COINTELPRO was ended (we promise!) when documentary evidence of it was brought to light." I don't see how informed, fact-based speculation that there may be more to it than that does anything to 'cover up' or absolve the people involved.