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It's re-branded Socialism. Incremental as always. Paired with the social credit score, it's every authoritarians dream.


UBI is the opposite direction from socialism. Socialism is largely about giving the government more control over how money is spent. With UBI the government doesn't decide anything – people can spend the money on whatever they want.

This is why free-market advocates have been pushing it for decades as a better form of welfare.


Nope. That "money" comes from somewhere, and that somewhere is decided by the government. Putting people on the take increases their dependence and increases the power of that government.


Definition of socialism: Worker owned means of production.

That's it. You're feeding on 100 years of western propaganda and neoliberal ideas.

China is state capitalist, UdSSR was state capitalist.

If you want to see a working socialist state, even though it's suppressed by the US government for 70 years now, which explains most of its problems btw, look to Cuba.


Cuba is a "working socialist state"? Have you been to Cuba lately?!


Do you understand the concept of being cut off from 90% of the world market? They're struggling to maintain their system while being systematically targeted by the one of largest economic and military powers on the planet.


> Definition of socialism: Worker owned means of production.

Citation needed.


I mean... That's the definition. Not even the most neoliberal dumbass would try to disprove that.

Edit: Okay, whatever, here you go, right from Stanford: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/socialism/




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